So what do they do, actually?

I read the blurb, watched the video, and all I can tell is that they are frames with inbuilt speaker and mic, with battery on one side, tending to make them tilt like schoolboy cheaters after being sat on.

Not sure where the innovation is? Noise cancelling headphones, nope. Enemy individual block out auto-shade, nope. X-ray features, nope. HUD, nope. GPS, nope. Zoom, nope. Night vision, nope.

Seriously, what do they do? Why would I buy a pair?

lemonadesodaSo what do they do, actually?

I read the blurb, watched the video, and all I can tell is that they are frames with inbuilt speaker and mic, with battery on one side, tending to make them tilt like schoolboy cheaters after being sat on.

Not sure where the innovation is? Noise cancelling headphones, nope. Enemy individual block out auto-shade, nope. X-ray features, nope. HUD, nope. GPS, nope. Zoom, nope. Night vision, nope.

Seriously, what do they do? Why would I buy a pair?

I guess they're for people that likes to wear shades, but not earphones and want to be able to make annoying business calls in public...

TheLostSwedeI guess they're for people that likes to wear shades, but not earphones and want to be able to make annoying business calls in public...

Hi,
Yeah innovation includes both sides of the annoying conversation now until you sit or drop them one to many times :laugh:

When they can record what you're looking at let me know :)

There's no WAY the quality is comparable to traditional earbuds as they claim. None of the sound goes directly into your ears. It is hard enough to get conventional earbuds and headphones to sound convincing, but they at least have the advantage of pushing the sound directly towards your earholes... while these glasses have to conduct. Everything else is off axis, or reflecting off of surfaces and/or people you annoy.

Just on principle alone, I don't buy it. Just based on what I understand about how sound works, I dont think its possible to match the sound quality of dedicated transducers placed in or over the ear. Whereas these glasses are like the audio equivalent of taping your phone to your head.

robot zombieThere's no WAY the quality is comparable to traditional earbuds as they claim. None of the sound goes directly into your ears. It is hard enough to get conventional earbuds and headphones to sound convincing, but they at least have the advantage of pushing the sound directly towards your earholes... while these glasses have to conduct. Everything else is off axis, or reflecting off of surfaces and/or people you annoy.

Just on principle alone, I don't buy it. Just based on what I understand about how sound works, I dont think its possible to match the sound quality of dedicated transducers placed in or over the ear. Whereas these glasses are like the audio equivalent of taping your phone to your head.

I tried a pair of bone conducting headphones other than being flat due to the lack of bass the sound wasn't bad at all.

lemonadesodaNot sure where the innovation is? Noise cancelling headphones, nope. Enemy individual block out auto-shade, nope. X-ray features, nope. HUD, nope. GPS, nope. Zoom, nope. Night vision, nope.

Seriously, what do they do? Why would I buy a pair?

Enemy individual noise cancelling?

TotallyI tried a pair of bone conducting headphones other than being flat due to the lack of bass the sound wasn't bad at all.

That's basically my gripe in limited experience. Very dull, with weak bass. Suprisingly not lacking much in detail, but seemingly still missing so much to my ears. That and nearly zero stereo imaging when you bypass that whole outer ear structure, canal, and eardrum. Full center in my brain. Wayyy too 'in your head' sound for me. Maybe the most in my head anything has ever sounded... which makes sense since the sound is basically going right through your head, from bone to cochlea. You've got the basic l/r localization, but the fine localization is kinda lost. The 'zones' in the stereo field are 'hard' with noticeable gaps.

All parts of the ear play vital roles in how we perceive sound, from the weird flappy bits, to the canal, to the eardrum and it's little armature. That is why I suspect direct bone conduction will probably never fully measure-up in terms of immersion and enjoyment. It's not how we would usually receive sound. We aren't built to hear sound primarily through bone conduction because most sound in the physical reality reaches us through air conduction, hence we have entire systems for processing that. Without involving the rest of the ear, perception is understandably limited. You need both the bone conduction and the air conduction to get the full sensory experience. That's a thing even with circumaural headphones! How they rest near the temple and jaw areas can drastically affect the sound, and the reason is likely bone conduction. It's why some headphones have obnoxious clamp. Clamping isn't for sealing, its for resonance. Softer pads can seal fine with less pressure, and yet many high end headphones have tigher clamps with more rigid pads.

It's like an entourage. This is why head shape matters with headphones. It's not only about the seal. The other part of that acoustic coupling is resonance from the headphones to your skull. You need alla that or things don't sound quite right.

I just don't think they are remotely comparable. I think it's misleading to market them as having the same sound quality as a good pair of earbuds, because the way that they deliver sound is so drastically different, that they will probably never sound the same. I mean, this is beyond more simple stuff like having no isolation due to no seal on or in the ear. It's a fundamentally different way of hearing than traditional headphones and earbuds accommodate. It'll never sound like you're hearing it with your whole ear, because you aren't. It's not involving half of what you typically use to hear at a meaningful capacity.

It's not like I think they're a bad invention, either. Hell, it's how we've done hearing aids for a long time - it's a way to hear for people with collapsed ear canals, popped eardrums. It also makes sense if you want to be more aware of your environment, such as when jogging. But that IS the tradeoff. You can either have that space, isolation/clarity, full musical engagement, or you can hear your surroundings well. I just don't see a free lunch in these things. And it's fine, but I would NEVER recommend bone conduction gear to someone who is only looking for good sounding headphones or earbuds. It's not really in line with the usage, which has mostly been hearing impaired and 'active' use. You don't buy them for sound quality. It's a convenience, and perhaps a comfort.

My general advice with them is that if the comfort and awareness are really appealing to you, something you're going to be taking full advantage of, and are okay with a dip in quality, bone conduction is good. Otherwise, you can do a lot better for the same money. That's my whole issue with that marketing. It tries to subtly push them as a replacement for earbuds, which I don't think many people who've tried them would agree with.

These are the innovations that I think would be useful. (C) Copyright here, all proceeds to charity, patent pending ;P

i) situational awareness, "coffee shop - look left", "babe/beef - look right", "go for a walk - you've been staring at the PC - TV for too long", ie include haptics in frame
ii) find my specs - app to make the specs beep and light up, so you can find them when you lost them, again.
iii) nearfield pin camera - look at a product in a shop, turn to barcode, "this product is cheaper at Walmarts".
iv) psyops cranial vibration mind control
v) stealth mode, ie for cheating on exams
vi) vibrate on ring. Lol

Put speakers ($50) in a pair of (sun)glasses ($50)... BOOM! Smart eyewear for $500! :rockout:

I'm only not sure what's so "smart" about this. It's a smart way to sell stuff to rich people for more than what it's worth, that's for sure.

lemonadesodaThese are the innovations that I think would be useful. (C) Copyright here, all proceeds to charity, patent pending ;P

i) situational awareness, "coffee shop - look left", "babe/beef - look right", "go for a walk - you've been staring at the PC - TV for too long", ie include haptics in frame
ii) find my specs - app to make the specs beep and light up, so you can find them when you lost them, again.
iii) nearfield pin camera - look at a product in a shop, turn to barcode, "this product is cheaper at Walmarts".
iv) psyops cranial vibration mind control
v) stealth mode, ie for cheating on exams
vi) vibrate on ring. Lol

Hi,
So basically like Iron man uses :cool:

You should work in their PR department. Bigger chance of them making a sale! They really need to either spin their unexciting features to make them seem more desirable, or add/improve the features themselves.

i look forward to Lyte 4.o, but current version just isn’t cutting interest

there is already company with similar name brand is Prima in Germany,
and it makes "analogue" eyewear, the opposite of "smart devices", helping to reduce eyestrain and hazards, comeing from LED lights, eg. bluelight filter glasses.
www.innovative-eyewear.shop/en/