Tuesday, March 7th 2023

Intel "Panther Lake" Processor to Integrate a "Celestial" Xe3 iGPU

"Panther Lake" is the codename for the microarchitecture behind Intel's 17th Gen Core processors due for 2026-27. It succeeds the 16th Gen "Lunar Lake" (2025-26), 15th Gen "Arrow Lake" (2024-25); and 14th Gen "Meteor Lake" (2023-24) architectures. While very little is known about "Panther Lake," the first piece of information discovered in the LinkedIn profile page of one Intel Graphics engineer, suggests that the graphics tile of the processor will feature an iGPU based on the Xe3 "Celestial" graphics architecture, which is two generations ahead of the current Xe "Alchemist," and one ahead of Xe2 "Battlemage."

Intel's graphics architectures will continue to be highly scalable and modular in their applications, with variants of them scaling between low-power iGPUs to large client discrete GPUs, and very-large HPC-AI processors. The variant for the iGPU powering "Panther Lake" will be Xe3-LPG, a highly skimmed version of the architecture for lower Xe Core counts, with just the right hardware to operate in power-constrained devices such as mobile processors. From the looks of it, Intel will stick with the disaggregated chiplet design for its processor architectures going all the way down to "Panther Lake," as an older company slide detailing the scalability of "Celestial" highlighted a "next platform" processor succeeding "Meteor Lake" and its immediate successor ("Arrow Lake").
Sources: harukaze5719 (Twitter), VideoCardz
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22 Comments on Intel "Panther Lake" Processor to Integrate a "Celestial" Xe3 iGPU

#1
TheoneandonlyMrK
17th Generation, wow that's some ways out to be speculative about today.
Given Intel's recent form releasing stuff I'll definitely await reviews :p :) : D


But it does seem like the Dgpu ship is sailing.
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#2
kondamin
Would be nice if you know 14th gen was on time and not a refresh
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#3
Space Lynx
Astronaut
wtf is with these names. panther lake?

pretty sure panthers hate water lol
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#4
R0H1T
Celestial ~ yeah sure Intel's probably shooting for the stars with it :slap:
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#6
Tropick
Can't wait for Intel to drop the specs for their 23rd gen graphene nanotube based CPUs. :rolleyes:
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#7
hs4
I don't understand, why does the writer of this site add strange delays to Intel CPUs without any evidence?

Meteor lake: Officially "2H 2023"this writer claims 2023-2024. OneRaichu reports that ES2 has already achieved the expected performance and will launch in September 2023 based on the general lead time.
Arrow lake: Officially "2024" but this writer claims 2024-25.
Lunar Lake: Officially "2024+" but this writer claims 2025-26. It has been announced that the first samples have already been taped out, and based on the general lead time, it will launch in two years, from the end of 2024 to the beginning of 2025.
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#8
bonehead123
Space Lynxwtf is with these names. panther lake?

pretty sure panthers hate water lol
Nope, but just to clarify, all cats need water like any other warm-blooded species..... but only for hydration purposes :D

However, they DO hate getting into water, unless absolutely necessary to either avoid a predator or to obtain food....

But OTOH, some parts of the world are already running low on water, so intel must stop using up all our lakes, hehehe :)
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#9
dj-electric
Space Lynxwtf is with these names. panther lake?

pretty sure panthers hate water lol
Its most probably a real location, just like other lakes. There's one in WA
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#10
Tek-Check
hs4I don't understand, why does the writer of this site add strange delays to Intel CPUs without any evidence?

Meteor lake: Officially "2H 2023"this writer claims 2023-2024. OneRaichu reports that ES2 has already achieved the expected performance and will launch in September 2023 based on the general lead time.
Arrow lake: Officially "2024" but this writer claims 2024-25.
Lunar Lake: Officially "2024+" but this writer claims 2025-26. It has been announced that the first samples have already been taped out, and based on the general lead time, it will launch in two years, from the end of 2024 to the beginning of 2025.
It's pretty simple. Several tech outlets have covered the topic of delays in getting EUV volume production due to small amount of ASML machines delivered to Intel. This is the main reason why desktop Meteor Lake will be reduced and small volume launch. While they can launch mobile SKUs earlier, we are still expecting extended launch, just like Raptor Lake, a few SKUs earlier and then other SKUs into 2024. For example, they might announce the launch of H SKUs in September, make them available in October/November and then P and N SKUs after New Year. This has become a common practice, to launch SKUs over extended period of time. The road from ES2 to shelves in shops could be a long one...
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#11
Vayra86
ZoneDymoIts so far, so far, away
I'm kinda imagining Intel PR texts in that typical Star Wars movie intro format right now.
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#12
TheoneandonlyMrK
So arrow lake getting Alchemist , and lunar lake getting batttlemage, all before 2026 didn't touch your Radar ??!?.
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#13
Darmok N Jalad
Space Lynxwtf is with these names. panther lake?

pretty sure panthers hate water lol
Rumor has it they actually wanted to call it “Sex Panther,” but that name was already trademarked.
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#14
Leavenfish
Space Lynxwtf is with these names. panther lake?

pretty sure panthers hate water lol
But their CPU's run so HOT they need it.... or else, they would be useless.
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#15
Minus Infinity
LOL Panther Lake is what, at least 4-5 years away even on Intel's BS timetable: We have Meteor Lake, Arrow Lake, Luna Lake to come first and anyone think they are on 1 year cadence are delusional. Then we have to believe Intel's gpu division will still be around. Talking about Celestial long before Battlemage is even a thing is ridiculous. Was there some big investor meeting happening?

Now let's hear about Zen 7 and RDNA5 shall we.
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#16
hs4
Minus InfinityLOL Panther Lake is what, at least 4-5 years away even on Intel's BS timetable: We have Meteor Lake, Arrow Lake, Luna Lake to come first and anyone think they are on 1 year cadence are delusional. Then we have to believe Intel's gpu division will still be around. Talking about Celestial long before Battlemage is even a thing is ridiculous. Was there some big investor meeting happening?

Now let's hear about Zen 7 and RDNA5 shall we.
1st yr - design stage
2nd yr - silicon validation stage
3rd yr - package validation stage (incl. ES, QS, etc.)

A leaker reports that Meteor lake is 1/3 of the way through the package validation stage. Lunar lake has finished the design stage and is about to enter the silicon validation stage, according to Intel's official explanation. They avoided next generation EUV on finalizing the 20A/18A design, but I think their priority is to ensure that the schedule is kept.

There is no doubt that they are keeping things on schedule with Meteor lake and Lunar lake being released a year and a half apart. If Arrow lake is sandwiched in between, they launch new generation every 9 months (just for laptops, interval between the 12/13 generation was 9 months respectively and that between 13/14 gen will be the same).

However, it is still too much to ask, and it will not be possible to make it without organizing one of them as mobile-only and the other as desktop-only. I personally find it more interesting that the Arrow lake name was not mentioned in the earnings presentation.
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#17
A&P211
Space Lynxwtf is with these names. panther lake?

pretty sure panthers hate water lol
I'm waiting for suicide lake or contaminated lake. Maybe for the 20th gen, Intel will use useful names.
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#18
GreiverBlade
R0H1TCelestial ~ yeah sure Intel's probably shooting for the stars with it :slap:
aherm .... "Alchemist had no alchemy", "Battlemage will not have much fight in it" thus "Celestial will not be sky high"
this is what Intel GPU naming scheme inspire to me ...
tho i am happy they improved the performances from "total [censored]" to "acceptable" and slashed prices from "eh? they ask that much for that?" to "well ... they should have gone for that from the start"

on the other hand ... yay better IGP, it will be better (at least) than Intel current IGP? right? (well that's not too hard i confess )
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#19
PapaTaipei
Space Lynxwtf is with these names. panther lake?

pretty sure panthers hate water lol
100% wrong, Panthers live in rainforests and love water. They are the best swimmers/divers amongst the feline kingdom.
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#20
Tek-Check
PapaTaipeiPanthers live in rainforests and love water. They are the best swimmers/divers amongst the feline kingdom.
I hope they don't dive too deep into 420 mm AIO
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#21
Space Lynx
Astronaut
PapaTaipei100% wrong, Panthers live in rainforests and love water. They are the best swimmers/divers amongst the feline kingdom.
no need to be a dick about it, cool to know.
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#22
A&P211
PapaTaipei100% wrong, Panthers live in rainforests and love water. They are the best swimmers/divers amongst the feline kingdom.
Tigers are good swimmers also.
tiger lake
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