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P4-630Sure....

There is a 5-10% US sales tax depending on the state that is not included in that $339 price. Also, Intel GPUs are probably cheaper in the US depending on how tariffs and other export fees are being applied versus your country.

What’s this new marketing stunt?

10 Price down $20
20 Quick, get the Press Release out and tell the marketing guys to push news sites to publish our copy. News!
30 Put price back up again
40 Goto 10

Even on US soil, unless you need 10bit 4:2:2 acceleration in video editing, recent price drops for Radeon cards make this a lot harder.
A Radeon RX 6700 10GB has dropped to as low as 287 USD.
A Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB has dropped to as low as 349 USD.

Intel is so busy making people look at how much of a better value they are compared to GeForce, that they completely forgot Radeon.

Soo,

Intel can put 16GB on a $339 card, but Nvidia can't do that on a $800 4070Ti.

Shameful.

dj-electricEven on US soil, unless you need 10bit 4:2:2 acceleration in video editing, recent price drops for Radeon cards make this a lot harder.
A Radeon RX 6700 10GB has dropped to as low as 287 USD.
A Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB has dropped to as low as 349 USD.

Intel is so busy making people look at how much of a better value they are compared to GeForce, that they completely forgot Radeon.

Given that intel supposedly has a 6% market share now, it seems to be working for them. Radeon forgot radeon at this point.

Outback BronzeSoo,

Intel can put 16GB on a $339 card, but Nvidia can't do that on a $800 4070Ti.

Shameful.

GDDR6X catalog only includes 8Gb and 16Gb parts. As long as this card uses 192bit bus, it not going to end up with anything that isn't 6GB or 12GB of VRAM, and 24GB won't happen at this price point.

Outback BronzeSoo,

Intel can put 16GB on a $339 card, but Nvidia can't do that on a $800 4070Ti.

Shameful.

Intel is also using slower, cheaper 16gb GDDR6 memory, not the 20+ gbps GDDR6X that nvidia has exclusive rights to ( and likely pays handsomely for that exclusivity).

I am somewhat surprised we havent seen more granular memory busses again. No 14GB 224 bit bus, for instance?

dj-electricGDDR6X catalog only includes 8Gb and 16Gb parts. As long as this card uses 192bit bus, it not going to end up with anything that isn't 6GB or 12GB of VRAM, and 24GB won't happen at this price point.

That supposed to be some kind of excuse ? Nothing forces Nvidia to continue gimping their GPUs with verry narrow oddly configured bus interfaces, they're not idiots, they know every well what they're doing.

Vya DomusThat supposed to be some kind of excuse ? Nothing forces Nvidia to continue gimping their GPUs with verry narrow oddly configured bus interfaces, they're not idiots, they know every well what they're doing.

Not so much an excuse but a technical reasoning. RTX 40 series cards being as expensive as NVIDIA can make them is as obvious as can be at this point

These are great plex server cards. You can make use of QuickSync and they have more support for file formats than most of the Intel CPUs do. Especially useful if you have an older server running a cpu 4-5 gens old and want a transcoding upgrade without changing the CPU, MB, and RAM.

@The_Enigma , for an older xeon e3-1270, would you recommend the Arc for video conversion over a Quadro, e.g. P1000/T600?

lemonadesoda@The_Enigma , for an older xeon e3-1270, would you recommend the Arc for video conversion over a Quadro, e.g. P1000/T600?

Look at what codec formats you use or want on these two links to see support:

developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video

The thing I am most disappointed in for Arc Alchemist GPUs is the loss of hardware decode for VC-1 files. A lot of the earlier blurays used VC-1 and MPEG2 for their codecs. I know they are really easy to decode, and any multicore CPU can do it these days at real-time speed, but Id rather be able to do it with extremely minimal GPU resources than take up 6-8 cores on a CPU for the task.

TheinsanegamerNIntel is also using slower, cheaper 16gb GDDR6 memory, not the 20+ gbps GDDR6X that nvidia has exclusive rights to ( and likely pays handsomely for that exclusivity).

Intel uses 18 Gbps GDDR6. Given that GDDR6X isn't much faster than GDDR6, it can't be much more expensive. On Newegg, the difference between the cheapest 3060 Ti with GDDR6 and its GDDR6X equipped equivalent is only $15 (excluding the cheapest 3060 Ti which is sold by a third party seller).

The_EnigmaThese are great plex server cards. You can make use of QuickSync and they have more support for file formats than most of the Intel CPUs do. Especially useful if you have an older server running a cpu 4-5 gens old and want a transcoding upgrade without changing the CPU, MB, and RAM.

Yeah definitely and helps with video editing too (didn't have a CPU with an iGPU QuickSync). I bought the ASRock A380 though. I would've loved the Arc A770 especially this one as it looks quite interesting but went for the cheapest I could find to at least try it out.

This might be tempting if anyone had ever reviewed this card. The only review Google can find is just one guy on Youtube in is bedroom running a few games on his PC.

Mr. PerfectThis might be tempting if anyone had ever reviewed this card. The only review Google can find is just one guy on Youtube in is bedroom running a few games on his PC.

uh, lotsa folks reviewed the A770, including TPUand Tom's. The odds of the Acer version being significantly different seem minimal. A far bigger, and harder to quantify, factor is prolly the relatively immature state of Intel's drivers. If they don't abandon it (as they sometimes do to any market segment they can't just dominate), it's likely to get noticeably better over time.

cbbA far bigger, and harder to quantify, factor is prolly the relatively immature state of Intel's drivers. If they don't abandon it (as they sometimes do to any market segment they can't just dominate), it's likely to get noticeably better over time.

This is the main issue preventing me from investing into any of Intel's offerings for a home media server upgrade.

dj-electricEven on US soil, unless you need 10bit 4:2:2 acceleration in video editing, recent price drops for Radeon cards make this a lot harder.
A Radeon RX 6700 10GB has dropped to as low as 287 USD.
A Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB has dropped to as low as 349 USD.

Intel is so busy making people look at how much of a better value they are compared to GeForce, that they completely forgot Radeon.

Ultimately Radeon is not a desirable brand. So for marketing and other aspects it makes no sense at all for intel to compare themselves to them. You compare yourself to the brand people desire, not the one they try to avoid.

cbbuh, lotsa folks reviewed the A770, including TPUand Tom's. The odds of the Acer version being significantly different seem minimal. A far bigger, and harder to quantify, factor is prolly the relatively immature state of Intel's drivers. If they don't abandon it (as they sometimes do to any market segment they can't just dominate), it's likely to get noticeably better over time.

The aforementioned lack of driver-development/full-support, alongside Intel's tendency to throw a tantrum when they can't win still leaves me with interest in (specifically Acer's) 16GB A770.

(Circumstance changes over the years considered) this 'go' at the market from Intel has been infinitely better than their last attempt (that actually made it to market. Larrabee doesn't count).
That same 'failed 1st attempt' is now a collectors' item.

Hence, my interest as a collector-enthusiast:
Acer once sold components and Intel once sold graphics, in roughly the same long-bygone era.
(also, the 'larger memory' variants of cards typically retain their value better than their 'entry SKU', regardless of brand/history)

I own this interesting chimera piece of hardware, and all I can say is that I'm pleased with the performance / power consumption / cooling solution.

In my opinion, this is a better pick on a long term than 3060 (used to own one before the Intel) and 3070 due to higher bandwidth, VRAM and basically a nice clock -> mine goes 2.4 GHz without too much hassle -> this is probably the very same reason the Acer variant has 2x8pin additional power, instead the 8+6 configuration.

Also one more thing that I bet on when I picked this card is the driver support: if the drivers let's say are not in the best of state today(personally didn't have any issue so far, having tested a bunch of titles from DX8 to DX12 and Vulkan), by the time the Battlemage will come, this will also benefit from updated libraries and wrappers, so another performance boost :)

Also the price, being a little bit more expensive than the Limited Edition, it's still on par or cheaper than some better cooled 3060 versions up there.

cbbuh, lotsa folks reviewed the A770, including TPUand Tom's. The odds of the Acer version being significantly different seem minimal. A far bigger, and harder to quantify, factor is prolly the relatively immature state of Intel's drivers. If they don't abandon it (as they sometimes do to any market segment they can't just dominate), it's likely to get noticeably better over time.

I was specifically wondering about Acer Predator Bifrost A770 reviews. The weird fan combo with the squirrel cage fan is a little concerning, since those tend to be pretty noisy. It would also be interesting to see what Acer's build quality is like, since they're new to graphics cards. Otherwise, yeah, a tiny overclock isn't likely to change much.

Mr. PerfectI was specifically wondering about Acer Predator Bifrost A770 reviews. The weird fan combo with the squirrel cage fan is a little concerning, since those tend to be pretty noisy. It would also be interesting to see what Acer's build quality is like, since they're new to graphics cards. Otherwise, yeah, a tiny overclock isn't likely to change much.

ah, I see. Yes, despite frequent marketing claims, I find those types of fans tend to be noisy as well, and that'd be a deal-killer for me. I hadn't realized you meant the noise aspect of that particular (and unusual) configuration.