Monday, July 17th 2023
Intel "Arrow Lake-S" Desktop Processor Projected 6%-21% Faster than "Raptor Lake-S"
Intel's future-generation "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processor is already being sampled internally, and to some of the company's closest industry partners, and some of the first performance projections of the processor, comparing it with the current "Raptor Lake-S" (Core i9-13900K), have surfaced, and upcoming "Raptor Lake Refresh" desktop processor (probably the i9-14900K), have surfaced. First, while the "Raptor Lake Refresh" family sees core-count increases across the board for Core i3, Core i5, and Core i7 brand extensions, the 14th Gen Core i9 series is widely expected to be a damp squib compared to the current i9-13900 series, and it shows in the performance projection graphs, where the supposed-i9-14900K is barely 0% to 3% faster, probably on account of slightly higher clock speeds (100-300 MHz).
The "Arrow Lake-S" processor in these graphs has a core-configuration of 8P+16E. Since this is a projection, it does not reflect the final core-configuration of "Arrow Lake-S," but is a guideline on what performance increase to expect versus "Raptor Lake," assuming the same core-configuration and power limits. All said and done, "Arrow Lake-S" is projected to offer a performance increase ranging between 6% in the worst case, to 21% in the best-case benchmark, compared to the current i9-13900K, assuming an identical core-config and power-limits. The CPU benchmarks in the projection span the SPECrate2017 suite, CrossMark, SYSmark 25, WebXPRT 4, Chrome Speedometer 2.1, and Geekbench 5.4.5 ST and MT.
One area where "Arrow Lake-S" is expected to offer a performance leap is with its integrated graphics. Based on the Xe-LPG graphics architecture (DirectX 12 Ultimate capable), and armed with 8 Xe cores (128 EU), the iGPU is projected to offer a massive 240% graphics performance uplift over the current Xe-LP based iGPU of the "Raptor Lake-S" that has 32 EU.
With Intel expected to call 2023 a wrap with the "Raptor Lake Refresh" series planned for Q4-2023 on the existing LGA1700 platform, all eyes are on what Intel does in 2024. The company's subsequent desktop platform will introduce the new Socket LGA1851, and require a new motherboard. It's unclear if the platform will debut with a "Meteor Lake-S" as the microarchitecture's compute tile tops out at a 6P+16E core-count. "Arrow Lake-S" surfaced on leaked roadmap slides with a mid-2024 mass-production commencement timeline, which should put product launches some time in the second half of 2024.
Source:
Igor's Lab
The "Arrow Lake-S" processor in these graphs has a core-configuration of 8P+16E. Since this is a projection, it does not reflect the final core-configuration of "Arrow Lake-S," but is a guideline on what performance increase to expect versus "Raptor Lake," assuming the same core-configuration and power limits. All said and done, "Arrow Lake-S" is projected to offer a performance increase ranging between 6% in the worst case, to 21% in the best-case benchmark, compared to the current i9-13900K, assuming an identical core-config and power-limits. The CPU benchmarks in the projection span the SPECrate2017 suite, CrossMark, SYSmark 25, WebXPRT 4, Chrome Speedometer 2.1, and Geekbench 5.4.5 ST and MT.
With Intel expected to call 2023 a wrap with the "Raptor Lake Refresh" series planned for Q4-2023 on the existing LGA1700 platform, all eyes are on what Intel does in 2024. The company's subsequent desktop platform will introduce the new Socket LGA1851, and require a new motherboard. It's unclear if the platform will debut with a "Meteor Lake-S" as the microarchitecture's compute tile tops out at a 6P+16E core-count. "Arrow Lake-S" surfaced on leaked roadmap slides with a mid-2024 mass-production commencement timeline, which should put product launches some time in the second half of 2024.
75 Comments on Intel "Arrow Lake-S" Desktop Processor Projected 6%-21% Faster than "Raptor Lake-S"
And no, you are wrong, the 13700k at same watts as 7700 / 7800x 3d smashes in to pieces in every workload. A 13700k at 65w is faster than the 7700x at 125, lol
I mean you have a 7700x, post your score on whatever benchmark you want and we can compare :D
Can't you see it's problematic that an i7 12700 (as tested by hwunboxed) beats the latest and greatest Zen 4 R7 in efficiency?
The 13700k at 88w is faster than the 7700x at 142w!!! The 13600k at 125w is faster than the 7700x at 142w
And let's keep in mind, these are not all core workloads. If they were, the difference would be even bigger.
Also the 13900k at 45w is the most efficient cpu on the entire list.
That Intel inefficiency
What CPU at what watt will you be using?
Ill be using Ryzen 7700x@85watt
65 watt is interesting too
Funny though, you went directly to avx. You know exactly what's up, that the 7700x doesn't stand a chance in hell in normal workloads. Rofl, I like you man, that was sweet. But if you already know, why don't you straight up admit it?
You should use ycruncher with avx instead of Geekbench though, I think it does much better on zen 4
This will test mixed single core and mult in somewhat real daily tasks. Interesting if severe wattage limitation have influence on that. I can not find such results on the web. Every other test you have up there
My results are in the system specs
For reference I dropped 55w on power limit vs what my chip runs at without restraint and it lowered my cinebench productivity score by a whopping 3%, so any reviews commenting on performance per watt that should be taken into account for a K processor and Z board combo which has fully unlocked voltage and power controls. I know my ASRock board e.g. the default isnt a 241/241 or 253/253 and definitely isnt a 4096/4096. It was 241/125. Which isnt far off TPU's recommended setting when they did PL testing on a 12900k.
Also at the time I made my purchase the Intel platform was considerably cheaper in capital outlay required due to not needing DDR5 and cheaper boards. So there is many variables here, but this doesnt need to be some kind of shots taken at each other match, I think both CPU's and platforms are great. Just with different pros and cons to each other.
browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1970278
Still - matching the 8 core ryzen does not mean its even close to 2ccd products or any 8p+8e lga1700 part was ever priced on par with 8 core am5.
www-computerbase-de.translate.goog/2022-10/intel-core-i9-13900k-i7-13700-i5-13600k-test/2/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
People act like zen 4 is so far ahead which is not true at all, especially when talking about the single ccd zen 4 that are behind
Not sure I believe this leak either though. Benchmarks can be iffy enough with many variables without throwing in words like 'projected' performance.
Cheers
They might as well have said.
"It's definitely faster"