Friday, July 28th 2023

AMD's Radeon RX 7900 GRE Gets Benchmarked

AMD's China exclusive Radeon RX 7900 GRE has been put through its paces by Expreview and the US$740 equivalent card should in short not carry the 7900-series moniker. In most of the tests, the card performs like a Raden RX 6950 XT or worse, with it being beaten by the Radeon RX 6800 XT in 3D Mark Fire Strike, even if it's only by the tiniest amount. Expreview has done a fairly limited comparison, mainly pitching the Radeon RX 7900 GRE against the Radeon RX 7900 XT and NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4070, where it loses by a mile towards AMD's higher-end GPU, which by no means was unexpected as this is a lower tier product.

However, when it comes the GeForce RTX 4070, AMD struggles to keep up at 1080p, where NVIDIA takes home the win in games like The Last of US Part 1 and Diablo 4. In games like F1 22 and Assassin's Creed Hall of Valor, AMD is only ahead by a mere percentage point or less. Once ray tracing is enabled, AMD only wins in F1 22 and it's by less than one percent again and Far Cry 6, where AMD is almost three percent faster. Moving up in resolution, the Radeon RX 7900 GRE ends up being a clear winner, most likely partially due to having 16 GB of VRAM and at 1440p the GeForce RTX 4070 also falls behind in most of the ray traced game tests, if only just in most of them. At 4K the NVIDIA card can no longer keep up, but the Radeon RX 7900 GRE isn't really a 4K champion either, dropping under 60 FPS in more resource heavy games like Cyberpunk 2077 and The Last of Us Part 1. Considering the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti only costs around US$50 more, it seems like it would be the better choice, despite having less VRAM. AMD appears to have pulled an NVIDIA with this card, which at least performance wise, seems to belong in the Radeon RX 7800 segment. The benchmark figures also suggests that the actual Radeon RX 7800 cards won't be worth the wait, unless AMD prices them very competitively.

Update 11:45 UTC: [Editor's note: The official MSRP from AMD appears to be US$649 for this card, which is more reasonable, but the performance still places this in in a category lower than the model name suggests.]
Source: Expreview
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66 Comments on AMD's Radeon RX 7900 GRE Gets Benchmarked

#52
Minus Infinity
Wow this augers really badly for the N32 based 7800. This GRE card should be a lot stronger than a 6800XT. I'm guessing the 7800 will perform like a 6700 repalcement and of course that's what it really should be marketed as, a 7700XT.

What a woeful update RDNA3 has turned out to be IMO. Oh well Battlemage better offer some competition next year or we are all screwed.
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#53
Phoenix Nano
This article opinion and closing thoughts should be redone with the update
While not ideal at $650 (should be $600), this card is much better deal than either the $600 RTX 4070 which it surpasses by a mile (authors own words) and the $800 RTX 4070Ti which it trades blows with in rasterized performance and only 12GBVRAM.
AnotherReaderThe early benchmarks for this card are concerning. It has most of the resources of a 7900 XT, but the smaller cache makes it much slower than the next step up the ladder. AMD's specifications indicate lower clock speeds, but we won't know for sure until reviewers get their hands on it.
Proportional to the amount of CUs it has the same amount of IC as full Navi31, 1MB per CU
7900 XTX: 96CUs and 96MB IC
7900 GRE: 80CUs and 80MB IC
GRE is just Navi31 with one SE disabled so the backend/frontend supporting the card should be the same proportional to the amount of CUs

GPU core & memory clock speeds slight downgrade is about its about the only reduction that could impact performance scaling

Never mind, im blind apparently as the 7900GRE indeed has only 64MB IC giving it 80% the amount of IC per CU: 0.8MB per CU
Minus InfinityWow this augers really badly for the N32 based 7800. This GRE card should be a lot stronger than a 6800XT. I'm guessing the 7800 will perform like a 6700 repalcement and of course that's what it really should be marketed as, a 7700XT.

What a woeful update RDNA3 has turned out to be IMO. Oh well Battlemage better offer some competition next year or we are all screwed.
No... If you look at the specs its easy to understand why the 7900GRE performance scales badly relative to the number of CUs.
It has only 64MB IC for 80CUs, lower clocked memory chips and GPU clocks

The 7800 will have 64MB IC for 60CUs, same memory clocks to feed less CUs and faster core clocks. 7800 will most likely perform on par with the 6800 XT with a few percentage wins here and there
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#54
AusWolf
MrDweezilI mean, if they thought the card was any good they wouldn't only be selling it in one country.
Not necessarily. This card is based on a seriously cut-down chip. Maybe there isn't enough failures in production to supply the whole world, and they would rather sell the more expensive models in higher numbers.
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#55
siluro818
AusWolfNot necessarily. This card is based on a seriously cut-down chip. Maybe there isn't enough failures in production to supply the whole world, and they would rather sell the more expensive models in higher numbers.
That's almost certainly the case here. The Navi 31 GCD is barely bigger than that of Navi 22. Failure rate should be very low indeed.
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#56
Zareek
OMG, GRE that may actually be the absolute worst naming convention ever!
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#57
SunWukong
Price it at $550 and you have a winner.
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#58
A Computer Guy
KissamiesWhy all interesting hardware has to be exclusive to some region? The Chinese have had multiple interesting parts and the R5 5600X3D is an USA exclusive.
This could be a sea-aye-ay special edition GPU?
AnotherReaderGoing by AMD's specifications, the clock speeds are expected to be lower than the 7900 XT. However, their page also shows lower frequencies for the 7900 XT when compared to the 7900 XTX and the claimed difference is far more than what is seen in practice.

AMD missed a prime marketing opportunity: should of done 88 compute units and 88 ray accelerators
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#59
ARF
A Computer GuyAMD missed a prime marketing opportunity: should of done 88 compute units and 88 ray accelerators
If they use defective dies for the SKU, then they have limitations about the specifications.

The card is definitely nothing interesting or exciting, so no surprise that it doesn't launch in all countries.
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#60
ToTTenTranz
Darmok N JaladI dunno, those generations of cards where they just renamed the previous generation and boosted clocks a few percent were pretty bad. This latest round we got actual new products, but they just ain't that impressive. If AMD had called the 7900 series the 7800 series and priced them accordingly, it would be a different story, but they clearly got nothing above Navi 31 to throw at us.
But those refreshes (like GTX680 vs GTX770) would happen within a year of the original GPUs' release. This is a whole new architecture launched 2.5 years later.
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#61
AnotherReader
ToTTenTranzBut those refreshes (like GTX680 vs GTX770) would happen within a year of the original GPUs' release. This is a whole new architecture launched 2.5 years later.
RDNA 3 was launched 2 years after RDNA2 which is in line with previous new architectures.
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#62
Darmok N Jalad
ToTTenTranzBut those refreshes (like GTX680 vs GTX770) would happen within a year of the original GPUs' release. This is a whole new architecture launched 2.5 years later.
Look back to the G92. Started out as the GeForce 8800 GTS, then the GTX 9800, then the GTS 250. There was a die shrink in there, but basically the same card for 3 gens.
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#63
AirplaneA1
The Year of the Rabbit is determined based on the traditional Chinese calendar, and the "Rabbit" in the zodiac corresponds to the "Mao" in the twelve earthly branches. The Year of the Rabbit is also known as the "Mao" year(卯年), and every twelve years serves as a cycle. For example, the year 2023 in the Gregorian calendar corresponds to the Year of the Rabbit, which is the year of Guimao(癸卯年).
AMD is focused on the Chinese market, so it will try to adopt a name with Chinese characteristics. "GRE" does not mean Graduate Record Examination, but rather "Golden Rabbit Edition", as this is the Year of the Rabbit in the traditional Chinese calendar. Similarly, AMD used to have the RX 590 GME, which means "Golden Mouse Edition" because 2020 is the Year of the Rat.
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