Minus InfinityEven if true that doesn't appear to be happening until RDNA5, so 3 years at least and I wouldn't bet on there ever being a RDNA5. AMD will struggle next year against Intel's Battlemage IMO and drop to third in a few years. They won't even bother trying to compete other than with APU's.

AnotherReaderMore than a year after release, Arc is very hit or miss. Most of the time, it struggles to beat the RX 7600 despite a die that's twice as large and consuming 50% more power. I don't believe BattleMage will overcome such a large deficit in performance per square mm and Watt.

TechLurkerI highly doubt this. Between AMD having learned how to do MCM GPUs, on top of now having Xilinx FPGAs supposedly being integrated with AMD's next-gen datacenter GPUs to provide a boost to AI learning, I see it more as AMD staying the course with lessons learned from RDNA3 and using FPGAs to maybe improve ray-tracing or provide AI/modeling calculations while improving upon their MCM GPU process.

Moreso when their GPUs are still pretty popular alternatives to NVIDIA and they're capable of reaching anywhere from 90 to 100% of the non-raytraced performance of NVIDIA's XX80 equivalent at lower cost, depending on the game and secondary features activated (DLSS/RIS for example).

TechLurkerI highly doubt this. Between AMD having learned how to do MCM GPUs, on top of now having Xilinx FPGAs supposedly being integrated with AMD's next-gen datacenter GPUs to provide a boost to AI learning, I see it more as AMD staying the course with lessons learned from RDNA3 and using FPGAs to maybe improve ray-tracing or provide AI/modeling calculations while improving upon their MCM GPU process.

Moreso when their GPUs are still pretty popular alternatives to NVIDIA and they're capable of reaching anywhere from 90 to 100% of the non-raytraced performance of NVIDIA's XX80 equivalent at lower cost, depending on the game and secondary features activated (DLSS/RIS for example).

Post Nut ClairvoyanceBut putting events in the scale of GPU history timeline, Intel has put up an impressive display so far. Of course they will still be playing the catch up, but the moment it sparks serious competition with AMD, the dreaded duopoly will end. I don't think AMD will give Intel free marketshares, and the competition between them should see NV stop its anti-everyone attitude.

I mean, personally I don't mind Intel spending money on GPU R&D. It only serves to potentially benefit me down the line. I do hold 10 shares but don't really care about that potential loss.


I just wonder what their xx70 XT offering involves this time.
It would probably be a 256-bit memory controller? I think it would make no sense to kneecap yourself at 6/7700XT level of die size. And 5700XT was a 256-bit card.
I think its a sensible choice but time will tell. RTG is not exactly on a "not dissatisfying everyone" streak with their recent performance.
Imma "Let RTG cook".

tajoh111Gamers want prices to stay the same even if costs are going up.

evernessinceThis rumor makes little sense. Two major reasons AMD switched to chiplets was the cost savings on combined total die size and scalability. Not utilizing either of those advantages seems extremely unlikely. AMD can produce high end GPUs at a fraction of the cost Nvidia can because it's individual dies are much much smaller and thus the amount of wasted wafer is drastically reduced. On the flipside, Nvidia's costs increase exponentially as they increase die size.

It doesn't make sense from a business standpoint for AMD to retreat from the high end when that's where chiplets specifically lend their benefits. Even if you assume that AMD does allocate most of it's wafer towards AI or other segments, it still makes sense for AMD to have a card for the high end.

This is just another rumor at the end of the day and 99% of them turn out to be false.

ARFAnd still nvidia posts huge profits, while AMD posts losses. Why is that? AMD's strategies don't work?
I mean it's cool all those chiplets and things, but do they actually make a difference?



www.techpowerup.com/309125/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-first-quarter-fiscal-2024-gaming-down-38-yoy-stock-still-jumps-25#g309125


www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-reports-second-quarter-2023-financial-results-revenue-down-18-yoy.311976/

KissamiesReminds me of Polaris.


38x0 wasn't that far from 8800 GT(S) and they had 3870X2 as the flagship. Though multi-GPU is dead and buried so no X2 this time.

ARFI don't think "it worked". How many people do you know (or think) have that mid-range RX 5700 XT?

Vya DomusWhat do "enthusiast" and "performance" segments even mean ?

Tsukiyomi91They prefer to sell other products or scale back most of their stuffs coz they realize not everyone is defending their shitty decisions and complacency with their wallets or opinions anymore.

ARFAnd still nvidia posts huge profits, while AMD posts losses. Why is that? AMD's strategies don't work?
I mean it's cool all those chiplets and things, but do they actually make a difference?

KissamiesReminds me of Polaris.


38x0 wasn't that far from 8800 GT(S) and they had 3870X2 as the flagship. Though multi-GPU is dead and buried so no X2 this time.

HisDivineOrderSo AMD waits a year-ish to release their midrange product line only to, according to the rumors, create an entire generation of just midrange product line to come out next year to replace it?