Saturday, September 30th 2023

Microsoft Ending Windows Activations Using Windows 7 and 8 Keys

For over a decade since the launch of Windows 8, Windows has had a not so well kept secret; you could activate an install using a Windows 7 key. So long as you had the correct version of the key for the install you intended to use, such as Home or Pro, plugging a Windows 7 key into a Windows 8, 8.1, 10 or even 11 install after upgrading would activate that new copy of Windows. Microsoft originally allowed this as a means to entice users away from Windows 7 and onto their newer operating systems via the free Windows Upgrade system. This even worked when doing a fresh clean install if you had an OEM key harvested from an old machine. That old Dell box in your closet that came with Windows 7 Pro in 2009? That key glued to the back could still be used to activate a fresh copy of Windows 10/11 in 2023. Same with Windows 8 keys. That changes soon.

Microsoft announced the change on their Device Partner Center in a very short posting which reads,
Microsoft's free upgrade offer for Windows 10 / 11 ended July 29, 2016. The installation path to obtain the Windows 7 / 8 free upgrade is now removed as well. Upgrades to Windows 11 from Windows 10 are still free.
This change does not end Windows installs that are already activated with those old keys, so don't worry about losing the activation after a forced update of Windows 10 or 11, the already in service keys will carry forward. The current Windows 11 version in beta channels already includes this lockout of old keys so the changes are coming to the general public very soon. There may still be a workaround to exploit, however. If you have install media created before the lockout goes into affect you may be able to do an offline install, activate with an old key, then connect online to push the activation through to Microsoft's server. It's only a theory, but we'll see if it works after the update goes public.
Source: Microsoft
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41 Comments on Microsoft Ending Windows Activations Using Windows 7 and 8 Keys

#1
Dr. Dro
I wonder if this is Microsoft's way to attempt to, at least to an insignificantly minor degree, plug the loophole that originated from these installs
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#2
GerKNG
just make W11 for personal use free... it's not like everything from microsoft is monetized already.
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#3
Dr. Dro
GerKNGjust make W11 for personal use free... it's not like everything from microsoft is monetized already.
Honestly, if I had to pay a cent further to use Windows, I would move to Linux in a heartbeat, really.
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#4
Wirko
Microsoft never wanted to pay me any money to switch from 7 to 10, and it doesn't look like they ever will.
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#5
chrcoluk
So install older build, activate, then upgrade via windows update, also looks like from the OP that this doesnt affect 10, just an upcoming build for 11 and onwards.
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#6
freeagent
Since about a decade has gone by.. I traded a pirate 7 key for a legit 10 key that I am using right now.

But to be fair, I am sure they know this :D

I did buy a key from an advertiser here just in case though :D
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#7
bug
Microsoft's free upgrade offer for Windows 10 / 11 ended July 29, 2016. The installation path to obtain the Windows 7 / 8 free upgrade is now removed as well. Upgrades to Windows 11 from Windows 10 are still free.
That does not make any sense to me.
First sentence: Win11 did not exist back in 2016, Win10 was less than a year old. What exactly ended?
Third sentence: Upgrades from what are free, if they're not available for Win7/8 anymore?
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#8
Space Lynx
Astronaut
games are starting to run better on linux than windows,

so I will be full time linux soon anyway, I'm just waiting for the new beta Ubuntu to make its way into linux mint next year and away i go.
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#9
dyonoctis
bugThat does not make any sense to me.
First sentence: Win11 did not exist back in 2016, Win10 was less than a year old. What exactly ended?
Third sentence: Upgrades from what are free, if they're not available for Win7/8 anymore?
I was thinking that Microsoft made a typo and meant 2023 instead of 2016, but whoever wrote this just merged the win 10 free upgrade with win 11...unless they meant that as in "people used the win 10 free upgrade to get the win 11 free upgrade". Win 10 free uppgrade ending was never really enforced :D
For more than seven years, it's been one of the worst-kept secrets in personal computing. Officially, Microsoft's free upgrade offer ended in 2016, but no one in Redmond bothered to reset the activation servers. The result? If you had a PC running Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1, you could upgrade to Windows 10 for free.
The loophole was even bigger than it appeared. The 25-character product keys from Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 were still good for activating a new installation of Windows 10 or upgrading to the Pro edition from Windows 10 Home.
It's official: No more free Windows 10 upgrades | ZDNET
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#10
dj-electric
If true, this is going to put a serious dent in used key website stocks. They use W7/8 keys as W10/11 ones since those work on them
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#11
mb194dc
Indeed the keys are on the MS website.
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#12
Broken Processor
Dr. DroHonestly, if I had to pay a cent further to use Windows, I would move to Linux in a heartbeat, really.
Couldn't agree more, the sooner Linux fix gaming completely on the platform the better.
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#13
R0H1T
Dr. DroHonestly, if I had to pay a cent further to use Windows, I would move to Linux in a heartbeat, really.
You already do, OEM installs on laptops still makes MS a pretty penny though per machine that number might've dropped significantly from jus at decade back.

They're of course making that up through stuff like MS office subscriptions!
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#14
TheLostSwede
News Editor
If you've linked your M$ account to your key, it still works though.
This is from an old Windows 7 Ultimate key my SO got when she worked at M$ many moons ago.
Just re-installed Windows 10 a couple of weeks ago, as something went wonky with the previous install.

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#15
b1k3rdude
Welp, upuntill fairly recently I had been using Win7 in a VM. But even now Win7 is just tool old for compatability testing, just trying to install vm tools on it was a chore, so installed 8.1 instead.

So I wonder how the upgrade from 8.1 to 10 would work down the road....?
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#16
Vayra86
Dr. DroHonestly, if I had to pay a cent further to use Windows, I would move to Linux in a heartbeat, really.
This... Ill do 3-5 eur for a pro oem key but anything more and its over for them lol
R0H1TThey're of course making that up through stuff like MS office subscriptions!
Yeah for some reason people sub a text editor... mind blowing
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#17
TheoneandonlyMrK
It's a shame, that copy of win 7 ultimate I payed a fortune for was, to be fair, a bargain, this long after it's key is now on 11 I can't complain, though it cost £150 I think at the time.
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#18
R-T-B
dj-electricIf true, this is going to put a serious dent in used key website stocks. They use W7/8 keys as W10/11 ones since those work on them
That is probably their main objective.
Arkz*cough* KMS_VL_ALL_AIO *cough*
Yeah, those coughs don't allow rule breakage my man.

Also, am I crazy or did the free key upgrade path only apply to 10 forward, not 8/8.1?
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#19
TheDeeGee
That's a problem for those websites selling $5-15 keys then, cuz 99% of those are Win 7 keys.
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#20
chrcoluk
How are people knowing if the key websites are for older versions of windows?
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#22
GhostRyder
Dang well that sucks, I have not had to buy Windows in like 10 years LOL. I have a stack of Win 7 keys just for that purpose. Oh well, that ride had to end at some point.
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#23
trsttte
bugFirst sentence: Win11 did not exist back in 2016, Win10 was less than a year old. What exactly ended?
This free upgrade supposedly ended early on windows 10 lifecycle, I don't remember exactly when but 1 year sounds about right. There was originally a dead line until when you could do the free upgrade, they simply never enforced it and the upgrade was available until now.

Windows 11 part doesn't make much sense in the sentence but you can get the general idea
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#25
R-T-B
chrcolukFair point, but how are they getting these keys when Microsoft dont generate them anymore?
So many used machines with oem stickers, would be my guess. Computer recyclers?
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