Thursday, October 12th 2023

QNAP Introduces the Half-width Rackmount 16-Port 10GbE QSW-M3216R-8S8T and QSW-3216R-8S8T L2 Managed/Unmanaged Switch

QNAP Systems, Inc., a leading computing, networking, and storage solutions innovator, today released the new Half-width Rackmount 16-port 10GbE switch series, including the L2 Web Managed QSW-M3216R-8S8T and the Unmanaged QSW-3216R-8S8T. The built-in eight 10GbE SFP+ and eight 10GbE RJ45 ports with backward compatibility fulfills the versatile demands of interfaces and speeds in high-speed network infrastructure. The half-width rackmount compact design also allows SMBs to flexibly deploy them in IT rooms or even on desks in offices.

"QNAP's best-selling all 10GbE switch series now releases two new half-width rackmount 16-port 10GbE models, offering more 10GbE ports to satisfy requirements for multiple high-bandwidth network devices in SMBs and offices. " said Jerry Deng, Product Manager of QNAP, adding "Managed and unmanaged models are available for easily upgrading to a full 10GbE high-speed LAN at an affordable price, and their small physical footprint makes them especially useful for businesses and organizations that lack physical space for dedicated IT hardware."
The QSW-M3216R-8S8T and QSW-3216R-8S8T come with eight 10GbE SFP+ fiber ports and eight 10GbE RJ45 ports, which are also backwards compatible with 1G SFP and Multi-Gigabit NBASE-T (10G / 5G / 2.5G / 1G). Up to 10bps speed per 10GbE RJ45 port can be achieved with the existing 6a cables (or better). The QSW-M3216R-8S8T and QSW-3216R-8S8T are compliant with IEEE 802.3az Energy Efficient Ethernet and IEEE 802.3x Flow Control in full-duplex mode, avoiding packet loss from unparalleled bandwidth, and reducing power consumption for low-speed and inactive connections. With a half-width rackmount design, the QSW-M3216R-8S8T and QSW-3216R-8S8T (or with another half-width rackmount switch) can be installed in a 1U rack space for efficient physical space utilization and tidy cabling in IT rooms or offices. With its smart cooling system, the QSW-M3216R-8S8T and QSW-3216R-8S8T ensures stable high-speed network performance even when under full load.

The QSW-M3216R-8S8T managed switch provides Layer 2 management functions (such as LACP, VLAN, ACL and LLDP) via QNAP Switch System (QSS) with user-friendly Web GUI for efficient network bandwidth controls and enhanced network security. The QSW-M3216R-8S8T is one of the few L2 web-managed switches that supports the Rapid Spanning Tree Protocol (RSTP) for users to deploy small/medium-scale networks that support expansion, redundancy, and loop prevention.

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19 Comments on QNAP Introduces the Half-width Rackmount 16-Port 10GbE QSW-M3216R-8S8T and QSW-3216R-8S8T L2 Managed/Unmanaged Switch

#1
Chrispy_
If controller manufacturers don't hurry up and get their multi-port 2.5gbe controllers out soon, these 10gbe switches are going to overtake and obsolete 2.5gb switches.

I've been waiting on the "next-gen multi-2.5gb controllers" for about 3 years now - and the fact that the only affordable controllers are single-port makes 2.5gb switches very expensive still.

Do we have a price on these QNAP QSW-3216R-8S8T switches yet?
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#2
Ferrum Master
Second link needs fixing.

80W Max.

Holy bananas
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#3
Dahita
Same here. I've been waiting for an affordable 5Gb 16x switch (to keep my existing cat5 cables) but nothing comes in sight. I'm fairly certain those 10Gb puppies won't be below $1500.
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#4
Chrispy_
DahitaSame here. I've been waiting for an affordable 5Gb 16x switch (to keep my existing cat5 cables) but nothing comes in sight. I'm fairly certain those 10Gb puppies won't be below $1500.
I dunno, QNAP are selling the very similar ukstore.qnap.com/qsw-m1208-8c.html for £654, which is about $800.

Since these new half-rack versions are smaller and have fewer SFP+ ports, I'd imagine they'd cost less, not more.
DahitaSame here. I've been waiting for an affordable 5Gb 16x switch (to keep my existing cat5 cables) but nothing comes in sight. I'm fairly certain those 10Gb puppies won't be below $1500.
Also, 5Gb is crazy expensive because they use 10GbE controllers. I'm not aware of any low-cost 5Gb controllers.
If you can make do with 16x 2.5Gb, then you can use something in the $250-500 range. ServeTheHome and Level1Tech have some decent budget recommendations.
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#5
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Chrispy_Do we have a price on these QNAP QSW-3216R-8S8T switches yet?
$550.
Chrispy_If controller manufacturers don't hurry up and get their multi-port 2.5gbe controllers out soon, these 10gbe switches are going to overtake and obsolete 2.5gb switches.

I've been waiting on the "next-gen multi-2.5gb controllers" for about 3 years now - and the fact that the only affordable controllers are single-port makes 2.5gb switches very expensive still.
It was only just taped out ahead of Computex this year...
www.techpowerup.com/309289/maxlinears-8-port-2-5-gbps-switch-is-tiny-single-chip-solution
Chrispy_Also, 5Gb is crazy expensive because they use 10GbE controllers. I'm not aware of any low-cost 5Gb controllers.
If you can make do with 16x 2.5Gb, then you can use something in the $250-500 range. ServeTheHome and Level1Tech have some decent budget recommendations.
Why do I ever write news here when no-one is reading it?!
www.techpowerup.com/309465/realteks-5-gbps-ethernet-solutions-will-reduce-cost-and-power-draw-significantly
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#6
GFreeman
News Editor
Ferrum MasterSecond link needs fixing.

80W Max.

Holy bananas
Fixed thanks!
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#7
The Von Matrices
TheLostSwedeWhy do I ever write news here when no-one is reading it?!
www.techpowerup.com/309465/realteks-5-gbps-ethernet-solutions-will-reduce-cost-and-power-draw-significantly
The 58 comments on that article proves the opposite.

Also, the numerous press releases posted verbatim as news do make people forget that there are articles with original content. I realize they are tagged as press releases but the small size of the tags and sheer number of press releases relative to original content does not help to draw people toward that original content.
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#8
Chrispy_
TheLostSwedeWhy do I ever write news here when no-one is reading it?!
www.techpowerup.com/309465/realteks-5-gbps-ethernet-solutions-will-reduce-cost-and-power-draw-significantly
I read them, I commented on them, I remembered them. What you're failing to understand is timing. When you said "Will reduce cost", that was future tense, not present tense.

Until those things are actually out on the market, at the low price as promised, they're vaporware and not relevant to the discussion. If I can't buy them yet, and there are no reviews showing up with them yet why even bring it up?
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#9
unwind-protect
This is relevant to my interests. Was looking for a mixed 10/2.5 Gbps switch but why bother when pure 10s are available at acceptable cost and form factor and noise.
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#10
thestryker6
$550 doesn't seem all that expensive for this switch since you get 8x multigig RJ45 ports and 8x 10/1 SFP.
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#11
kondamin
why does the price of 10g remain so high, can’t remember 100mbit to 1gbit taking that long
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#12
Chrispy_
kondaminwhy does the price of 10g remain so high, can’t remember 100mbit to 1gbit taking that long
Because all the low-hanging fruit has been picked for 4-pair copper wire with Gigabit and to some extent, 2.5Gb

Unlike other forms of progress in computing, the physical medium hasn't changed - we're still talking the same basic twisted pairs of copper that we were talking about 30 years ago. Storage has changed from spinning rust to NAND, processors get new manufacturing nodes and new transistor technologies, internal data cables get new standards with new cables that have more wires and new protocols. In order to go faster with the same old copper wire, we need far more complex controllers and they need to send at higher power to maintain signal integrity.

10g base-T is just the same old copper wires with the same old RJ45 connector and retains backwards compatibility with 10/100/1000. If single-mode fibre became the new standard I'm sure the production volumes and economies of scale would cause a massive shift in the market so that fibre was dirt cheap, but the issue is that it will never catch on. There are hundreds of millions, maybe even a billion buildings with CAT5e, CAT6, CAT6A wiring; That's the legacty constraint the market is working against.
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#13
unwind-protect
kondaminwhy does the price of 10g remain so high, can’t remember 100mbit to 1gbit taking that long
The unwashed masses all use Wifi now. Less demand for consumer 10 Gb/s than there was for 1 Gb/s at the time.
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#14
Octavean
DahitaSame here. I've been waiting for an affordable 5Gb 16x switch (to keep my existing cat5 cables) but nothing comes in sight. I'm fairly certain those 10Gb puppies won't be below $1500.
My understanding is that the manufacturing cost of 5GbE products wasn't significantly lower then 10GbE. Whereas 2.5GbE was significantly cheaper then 10GbE. So they can manufacture if you're not saving anything why not just go with 10GbE. Even if there is some attenuation with Cat5 it would likely depend on the distance your trying to cover. You'd probably get better truncated 10GbE performance then spot on 5GbE performance.
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#15
Wye
Up to 10bps speed
That's the slowest modem ever :roll:
Fire your technical writer/reviewer QNAP.
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#16
Ferrum Master
WyeThat's the slowest modem ever :roll:
Fire your technical writer/reviewer QNAP.
You forgot the glorious days of using 4Mbit Token Ring.
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#17
TheLostSwede
News Editor
kondaminwhy does the price of 10g remain so high, can’t remember 100mbit to 1gbit taking that long
What you want is this I guess, as it appears that they've fixed the earlier revisions hardware issues.
www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sx105/
It ends up at around $50 a port if you shop around during a sale.
OctaveanMy understanding is that the manufacturing cost of 5GbE products wasn't significantly lower then 10GbE. Whereas 2.5GbE was significantly cheaper then 10GbE. So they can manufacture if you're not saving anything why not just go with 10GbE. Even if there is some attenuation with Cat5 it would likely depend on the distance your trying to cover. You'd probably get better truncated 10GbE performance then spot on 5GbE performance.
Currently yes, but that's also about to change. Problem is, there are no 5 Gbps switches...
www.techpowerup.com/309465/realteks-5-gbps-ethernet-solutions-will-reduce-cost-and-power-draw-significantly
WyeThat's the slowest modem ever :roll:
Fire your technical writer/reviewer QNAP.
It's a press release, so it's more like QNAP wants to fire their proof reader.
Oh, right, they don't have one, that would be why.
Yes, I know this, as I used to work there and know their marketing team manager, nothing has changed.
Also, this is a switch, not a modem.
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#18
hellerman
Chrispy_If controller manufacturers don't hurry up and get their multi-port 2.5gbe controllers out soon, these 10gbe switches are going to overtake and obsolete 2.5gb switches.

I've been waiting on the "next-gen multi-2.5gb controllers" for about 3 years now - and the fact that the only affordable controllers are single-port makes 2.5gb switches very expensive still.

Do we have a price on these QNAP QSW-3216R-8S8T switches yet?
600 for managed and 550 for unmanaged. Forget about 2.5gbe - its useless. All current infrastructure is going to be at least 10gbe: wifi7 APs, NASes, etc.
DahitaSame here. I've been waiting for an affordable 5Gb 16x switch (to keep my existing cat5 cables) but nothing comes in sight. I'm fairly certain those 10Gb puppies won't be below $1500.
...and you are wrong, 600 and 550. 10gbe works perfectly fine even on cat5 asfar as its not longer than 30m.
TheLostSwedeWhat you want is this I guess, as it appears that they've fixed the earlier revisions hardware issues.
www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sx105/
It ends up at around $50 a port if you shop around during a sale.


Currently yes, but that's also about to change. Problem is, there are no 5 Gbps switches...
www.techpowerup.com/309465/realteks-5-gbps-ethernet-solutions-will-reduce-cost-and-power-draw-significantly


It's a press release, so it's more like QNAP wants to fire their proof reader.
Oh, right, they don't have one, that would be why.
Yes, I know this, as I used to work there and know their marketing team manager, nothing has changed.
Also, this is a switch, not a modem.
tplink is still overpriced. And still unmanaged. Other offes from them also inconsistent: either 8 port copper or spf+. Zyxel offers are interesting, but even more expensive: $750 for poe++ version.
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#19
bit
Packet Buffer ?
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