Sunday, December 10th 2023

Microsoft Announces October 2025 Date for Windows 10 End of Support

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Microsoft announced that the world's most popular PC operating system, Windows 10, will attain EOS (end of support) on October 14, 2025. From that date forward, the company will no longer release regular security updates for the OS, or the so-called "patch-Tuesday" updates for Windows 10. This announcement only covers the client Windows 10 editions, and not Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC (long-term servicing channel), or special editions of Windows 10 for large organizations and government agencies. Organizations on the client editions, such as Windows 10 Pro, can avail the ESU (extended security update) program, which will give them access to critical security updates, but no new OS or software features. Microsoft took the opportunity to urge those on Windows 10 to upgrade to the latest Windows 11 operating system. The company plans to launch its next-generation Windows 12 some time in 2024.
Sources: Microsoft Tech Community, TweakTown

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102 Comments on Microsoft Announces October 2025 Date for Windows 10 End of Support

#1
R-T-B
Hasn't this lifecycle date been declared for some time? Or am I misremembering?

Guess MS just wants to remind us...
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#2
Hyderz
looks like i need two new machines for school... got some old rig by the time 2025 they be 10 years...
i highly doubt windows 12 will be demanding... for 6th and 7th gen processors...
i wonder if the new microsoft office software will have AI stuff built in....
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#3
LabRat 891
This announcement only covers the client Windows 10 editions, and not Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC (long-term servicing channel), or special editions of Windows 10 for large organizations and government agencies.



Worth emphasizing.
-every time this has ever come up, FUD flies around wildly.
R-T-BHasn't this lifecycle date been declared for some time? Or am I misremembering?

Guess MS just wants to remind us...
Yes. Yes, they do...
I guarantee they'll release an 'update' for 10 soon, popping-up and pestering the user to upgrade.
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#4
AsRock
TPU addict
LabRat 891


Worth emphasizing.
-every time this has ever come up, FUD flies around wildly.


Yes. Yes, they do...
I guarantee they'll release an 'update' for 10 soon, popping-up and pestering the user to upgrade.
They tried that but fails due to always having TPM disabled :), as long as that is a requirement it will not install
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#5
Shou Miko
R-T-BHasn't this lifecycle date been declared for some time? Or am I misremembering?

Guess MS just wants to remind us...
It's correct, it's a reminder because I also shared the date in at least one post in the Windows thread here ;)
LabRat 891


Worth emphasizing.
-every time this has ever come up, FUD flies around wildly.
Correct LTSC is running on another schedule because it's a long-term support cycle OS but for most they do run Home or Pro it's just October 14th, 2025 because MS doesn't sell LTSC to consumers only businesses.
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#8
Shou Miko
LabRat 891'kay.
Not that it stops anyone...

www.techpowerup.com/316220/godeal24-cyber-week-sale-storm-jaw-dropping-deals-on-genuine-software



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I never said you couldn't pay it, but when you do, you have someone else administrating which also means if Microsoft closes the account the license key is from you are out of look.

I doubt they made the LSTC version in a OEM or Retail version :rolleyes: because then I would have access to that through my work place and we don't.
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#9
R-T-B
Shou MikoI doubt they made the LSTC version in a OEM or Retail version :rolleyes: because then I would have access to that through my work place and we don't.
I don't even have an LTSC license and I do have an enterprise license. I guess my business could ask what it'd cost, but a.) don't need it, and b.) I'm afraid. Enterprise is costly enough.
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#10
lemonadesoda
learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-enterprise-ltsc-2019

if you are considering LTSC for whatever reason - extended security updates, or less intrusive forced updates, then consider the 2019 edition.

EOL 2029

That version, behind a decent firewall is probably good to 2032 at least, since MS has an eye on it due to the IoT edition being maintained to 2032. If Something nasty should appear compromising the kernel, we’d hear about it, and could act accordingly.

And the second benefit? No embedded paperclip, alexa, siri and their new helpful AI telemetry that is getting built into the kernel of windows 12.
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#11
Vayra86
I'm really not sure I will adopt another Windows machine after 10.

Not a fan of the encroaching app/store-oriented Windows push, and 11 also fucks up the UI AGAIN. Zero interest in yet another bit of effort in getting Windows to work as it always has. Starting to feel like an idiot for doing so, because I'm still using the OS exactly how I've used it since 1995. Click icon, start game. Or advanced user stuff to click icons and run games better. MS wants to make both harder, and its annoying.

I'll definitely ride the 10 train for as long as possible though. Hopefully Valve will make Linux the OS to be on by the time 10 is EOL :)
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#12
chrcoluk
So updated EOL.

Oct 2025 for Pro no ESU.
2028 (I assume Oct) for Pro with ESU.
2027 for LTSC 21H2.
2029 for LTSC 1809
2032 for IoT LTSC 21H2.
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#13
aktpu
"If you are an individual consumer or an organization who elects to continue using Windows 10 after support ends on October 14, 2025, you will have the option of enrolling your PC in the paid Extended Security Updates (ESU) program"

learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/windows
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#14
R-T-B
lemonadesodaNo embedded paperclip, alexa, siri and their new helpful AI telemetry that is getting built into the kernel of windows 12.
There is absolutely no sensible reason to put the AI stuff in the kernel when a service will do just as well. I really doubt MS is that dumb.
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#16
lexluthermiester
R-T-BI mean if you're going to violate the eula though why pay at all? Just pirate the thing at that point.
Incorrect and very bad advice. YOU of all people should know this. Whether or not the EULA is fully adhered too is irrelevant to whether or not one has purchased a legit copy. Blatant piracy is dishonest and outright stealing. This is different from using a product outside the terms of EULA, especailly when many of the terms contained within an EULA are blatantly immoral/unethical or unlawful.

Using an OS your own way is a VERY different situation from using without having purchased/paid for it.
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#17
LabRat 891
lemonadesodalearn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-enterprise-ltsc-2019

if you are considering LTSC for whatever reason - extended security updates, or less intrusive forced updates, then consider the 2019 edition.

EOL 2029

That version, behind a decent firewall is probably good to 2032 at least, since MS has an eye on it due to the IoT edition being maintained to 2032. If Something nasty should appear compromising the kernel, we’d hear about it, and could act accordingly.

And the second benefit? No embedded paperclip, alexa, siri and their new helpful AI telemetry that is getting built into the kernel of windows 12.
Aye, Ent. IoT LTSC 2021 is g2g 'till 2032; my personal choice for OS.
Purchasing a lic. key for it is a little harder to find but, they are out there for sale.

Maybe, not the best reasons but,
who am I to argue w/ another pro-LTSC-bro? :laugh:
lexluthermiesterWhether or not the EULA is fully adhered too is irrelevant to whether or not one has purchased a legit copy. Blatant piracy is dishonest and outright stealing. This is a different from using a product outside the terms of EULA, especailly when many of the terms contained within an EULA are blatantly immoral/unethical or unlawful.

Using an OS your own way is a VERY different situation from using without having purchased/paid for it.
Agreed.
Off-Label Use is not anyway equivalent to Unpaid use.
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#18
ExcuseMeWtf
Inb4 they announce they have to extend it bc people don't want their shiny new AI infested OS.
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#19
AusWolf
Microsoft took the opportunity to urge those on Windows 10 to upgrade to the latest Windows 11 operating system.
No, thank you. I'll give Windows 12 a go (unless it's riddled with spyware just like 11), but if worst comes to worst, I can live without updates, no biggie.
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#20
Easo
Standard Microsoft 10 year support cycle.
/shrug
P.S.
Ah, I see we again have the "just use LTSC, brah". It never ceases to amaze me that people think a normal consumer can just get them, or the Enterprise key for 10 USD/EUR, lol.
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#21
lexluthermiester
EasoAh, I see we again have the "just use LTSC, brah". It never ceases to amaze me that people think a normal consumer can just get them, or the Enterprise key for 10 USD/EUR, lol.
But they ARE easy to buy. $20 on average though, not $10.
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#22
ymdhis
Can you still upgrade from Win10 to 11 with your existing license or do you need to re buy it again?

I might wait the 2025 dropoff, Windows 12 might be out by then. Depends on whether they allow free upgrading or not.
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#23
lexluthermiester
ymdhisCan you still upgrade from Win10 to 11 with your existing license or do you need to re buy it again?
Yes. And even though microsoft said it shouldn't work, Windows 7 & 8/8.1 keys still work as well.
ymdhisI might wait the 2025 dropoff, Windows 12 might be out by then.
It's best to wait & see anyway.
ymdhisDepends on whether they allow free upgrading or not.
Who knows..
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#24
Kaleid
That's quite soonish for a lot of folks who can't even install win11
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#25
lemonadesoda
R-T-BThere is absolutely no sensible reason to put the AI stuff in the kernel when a service will do just as well. I really doubt MS is that dumb.
You make too much sense. Far too practical. My point is, irrespective of where in 12, you can be sure it is going to be embedded as a antecedent dependency such that other wanted functions/services will not work without it. Remember how iexplorer got embedded?
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