Hi,
@lexluthermiester
Here's the TPU member
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/microsoft-re-enables-bitlocker-locked-my-computer-and-deleted-the-windows-hello-pin-after-installing-23h2.316342/#post-5151467

11f
Okay that was just a question to turn it off so didn't get bitlocked
This is where I got the cmd to disable though on page 2
www.elevenforum.com/t/how-to-prevent-automatic-drive-encryption-in-windows-11.13885/page-2#post-381096

ThrashZoneHi,
@lexluthermiester
Here's the TPU member
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/microsoft-re-enables-bitlocker-locked-my-computer-and-deleted-the-windows-hello-pin-after-installing-23h2.316342/#post-5151467

11f
Okay that was just a question to turn it off so didn't get bitlocked
This is where I got the cmd to disable though on page 2
www.elevenforum.com/t/how-to-prevent-automatic-drive-encryption-in-windows-11.13885/page-2#post-381096

Weird! Didn't see that thread. One could always change the service permissions in the registry(deny the system and other system accounts access) or just delete the service.

kapone32Thanks for the clarification.

I wasn't trying to be condescending at all. There are people who think they're two parts of the same thing, which is not the case.

lexluthermiesterWeird! Didn't see that thread. One could always change the service permissions in the registry(deny the system and other system accounts access) or just delete the service.


I wasn't trying to be condescending at all. There are people who think they're two parts of the same thing, which is not the case.

Hi,
I believe the issue arrived getting 23h2 from win updates something I'd never do personally
These large builds tend to wipe the slate clean "to ms advantage" and do things a user would not expect.

ThrashZoneHi,
I believe the issue arrived getting 23h2 from win updates something I'd never do personally
These large builds tend to wipe the slate clean "to ms advantage" and do things a user would not expect.

That could be. We all know how messed up updates regularly are.

lexluthermiesterYou are expressing the differences between something that might be iffy and something that most certainly is wrong and illegal. This is not semantics either. It is a clear line between what is potentially questionable(even though we all know they're not) and what is flat out dishonest.

Agree to disagree, grey market keys can come from anywhere, i.e. stolen from companies who buy them in bulk so you're in effect buying stolen property. That's more than iffy for me.

The product is listed everywhere (for regular licenses, LTSC it's not even listed) for a few hundred dollars, if you're buying it for 10x less someone somewhere is getting screwed while someone is profiteering on that deal. If you just pirate it MS will still be screwed but no one is profiteering on the deal

trsttteAgree to disagree, grey market keys can come from anywhere, i.e. stolen from companies who buy them in bulk so you're in effect buying stolen property. That's more than iffy for me.

The product is listed everywhere (for regular licenses, LTSC it's not even listed) for a few hundred dollars, if you're buying it for 10x less someone somewhere is getting screwed while someone is profiteering on that deal. If you just pirate it MS will still be screwed but no one is profiteering on the deal

I have a feeling the defensiveness is because TPU, well, it openly recommends these sites. But hey, you gotta pay the bills to keep, add money is still money.
Think of them as E-Bay, or all the G2A and the likes. The key is legit, but it's source is questionable.

lexluthermiesterYou are expressing the differences between something that might be iffy and something that most certainly is wrong and illegal. This is not semantics either. It is a clear line between what is potentially questionable(even though we all know they're not) and what is flat out dishonest.

I view both as equally dishonest and regarding the law, don't confuse legality for morality.

I think we probably just need to agree to disagree here. It's happened before, no biggie, I still respect you.

Have the clowns ever replied to questions why they made Windows 11 despite claims 10 will be the last version?

OctopussHave the clowns ever replied to questions why they made Windows 11 despite claims 10 will be the last version?

After 2 decades, Apple went to 11. So of course MS has to follow, just like Intel with their 'Ultra' branding.

trsttteThe product is listed everywhere (for regular licenses, LTSC it's not even listed) for a few hundred dollars, if you're buying it for 10x less someone somewhere is getting screwed while someone is profiteering on that deal. If you just pirate it MS will still be screwed but no one is profiteering on the deal

That isn't how it works. Those keys have to come from microsoft. For us to be able to buy them, they would have had to be purchased from microsoft originally. So NO, buying a key from a keyseller is NOT the same as pirating a copy of the same software.

Again, one option MIGHT be iffy, but microsoft still got paid somewhere along the line. The other option is blatant theft.

I think the biggest hurdle to using LTSC is not getting a key, legally or not. It's just a text string after all. The challenge is obtaining original/genuine non-evaluation installation media. Most users resort to fetching the ISOs from shady sources and that's probably worse than staying with an unpatched OS to begin with.

Lew ZealandAfter 2 decades, Apple went to 11. So of course MS has to follow, just like Intel with their 'Ultra' branding.

Just name it Windows Ω (that's "Absolute Infinite") and be done with it. By the very definition there's no bigger number, MS finally wins a race.

OctopussHave the clowns ever replied to questions why they made Windows 11 despite claims 10 will be the last version?

It wasn't exactly the company's plans. It was something said by a Microsoft developer.

www.pcworld.com/article/394724/why-is-there-a-windows-11-if-windows-10-is-the-last-windows.html

What a strange article it reads like it was written by Microsoft and passed on to PC World ro publish.

So a developer to mean the internal dev branch is Windows 10 same as public meant he said "its the last version of windows", that's a very weird English language. Then we have 10 lasting 10 years and a sudden shift back to a 3 year lifespan. Finally the claim 11 is actually 10 with some tweaks, trying to pass of a new UI, under the hood shell changes, and a app box as a start menu lol.

Hi,
Yeah you have to love PR campaigns to get people off win-7 back then :slap:

Is there any free upgrade from Windows 10 to 11 btw?

OctopussIs there any free upgrade from Windows 10 to 11 btw?

Yes, that is still a thing.

closeThe challenge is obtaining original/genuine non-evaluation installation media.

Nope, that's easy too. You just have to know where to look. Most of the time keysellers will grant you access to a legit ISO with a key purchase.

I went Arch only a few months back. I'll only use windows if I want to play something with the oculus or COD which is rarely. So long microsoft.

microsoft is gonna make 2025 the year of linux on the desktop

Guess what? My parents PC is rocking an Intel i7 3770k, with a Z77 mobo and 16GB of DDR3, and I will NOT upgrade their PC, just because callous Microsoft said so, due to their retarded TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot stupid requirements.
They have Antivirus/Antimalware, they don't browse unsafe sites, they play Zuma and Bejeweled , and could care less about those retarded artificial problems MS is bringing.

Hi,
MS will likely relax win-11 obnoxious requirements and enforce them on win-12 or whatever they call the next fraud os.

Funny thing is win-8 & 8.1 is still on life support :laugh:

Reason being way to many people have leapfrogged over the silly restrictions.
Which kicking them off would remove a lot of 11 users.

MS can go pound salt. I'm not upgrading my whole computer (complete with a bunch of BS "security" features) so I can move on to the next version of Windows, which will undoubtedly be even worse than the last. They've been breaking things since XP!

good luck,
LTSC 2019 - 09.01.2029,
LTSC 2021 - 12.01.2027
LTSC IOT 2021 - 13.01.2032 LMFAO

extended support=security updates, I don't care anything other your AI Pilot sh*t...

AleXXX666good luck,
LTSC 2019 - 09.01.2029,
LTSC 2021 - 12.01.2027
LTSC IOT 2021 - 13.01.2032 LMFAO

extended support=security updates, I don't care anything other your AI Pilot sh*t...

Microsoft CoPilot (Ai) can be fun to tinker with, but her in general if there ain't anything mandetory for games or more a LTSC version can be a good choice if available because of it's lever usage of specially memory.

I don't really care about the all the feature Microsoft brings, more of the functions for my usage.

The think that pisses me off personally is when Microsoft doesn't commit to things like you get linked from Control Panel to the Settings interface and vice versa because when you do something do it streamline so it's the same experience.

If I go into Control Panel it's because I know where things are I need not because I want the links in there to open up the Settings interface like what still happens in Windows 11 going to Control Panel (Category View), Click on View devices and Printers under Hardware and Sound this opens up in settings instead of Control Panel and clicking on Hardware and Sounds and then Devices and Printers does the samething.

What is even more annoying is if I copy paste or type the path Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Devices and Printers while not being in Hardware and Sound it keeps opening in the settings interface not in the window I am in.

Shou MikoMicrosoft CoPilot (Ai) can be fun to tinker with, but her in general if there ain't anything mandetory for games or more a LTSC version can be a good choice if available because of it's lever usage of specially memory.

I don't really care about the all the feature Microsoft brings, more of the functions for my usage.

The think that pisses me off personally is when Microsoft doesn't commit to things like you get linked from Control Panel to the Settings interface and vice versa because when you do something do it streamline so it's the same experience.

If I go into Control Panel it's because I know where things are I need not because I want the links in there to open up the Settings interface like what still happens in Windows 11 going to Control Panel (Category View), Click on View devices and Printers under Hardware and Sound this opens up in settings instead of Control Panel and clicking on Hardware and Sounds and then Devices and Printers does the samething.

What is even more annoying is if I copy paste or type the path Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Devices and Printers while not being in Hardware and Sound it keeps opening in the settings interface not in the window I am in.

This goes right back to the Cortana, Siri, Etc, Etc problem. I don't want companies having a direct link to my PC and into my home. It is unacceptably intrusive and in my estimation, intolerable. No fraking thank you. Keep that crap off my PC's and out of my home.

lexluthermiesterThis goes right back to the Cortana, Siri, Etc, Etc problem. I don't want companies having a direct link to and into my home. It is unacceptably intrusive and in my estimation, intolerable. No flaking thank you. Keep that crap off my PC's and out of my home.

I said thinker with, I don't use it and so far it can still be removed.