Sunday, January 28th 2024
AMD Ryzen 7 8700G CPU-Z Results Puts it Neck and Neck with the Ryzen 7 7800X3D
The first CPU-Z test results of AMD's upcoming Ryzen 7 8700G were sniffed out by serial leaker @momomo_us on X/Twitter and the new APU is looking very promising performance wise. It ends up being neck and neck with yours truly own Ryzen 7 7800X3D with a small lead to the CPU over the APU in single-threaded performance, but in the multi-threaded test the APU manages to stay ahead of the CPU, if only just. Both AMD chips are still somewhat behind Intel's Core i7-12700KF, but it has an extra four threads, even though those threads are slower due to them being on the E-cores.
The Ryzen 7 8700G test system was using an ASRock B650 Pro RS motherboard and the APU was paired with 32 GB of DDR5-6400 memory with reasonably tight timings of 32-39-39-102. The tester relied on the integrated Radeon 780M graphics in the APU and the Windows 11 operating system was installed on a 500 GB Seagate BarraCuda 510 SSD. In the single-threaded test the Ryzen 7 8700G scores 675 points vs 683 for the Ryzen 7 7800X3D and in the multi-threaded tests it came in at 7318 vs 7301. Not bad for a 65 W TDP APU vs a 120 W TDP CPU. For comparison, the average for Intel's Core i7-12700KF is 7754 in the mutli-threaded test. Although CPU-Z is far from an exhaustive test, it does at least give us a first glimpse of what to expect from the new Zen 4 APUs from AMD in terms of performance and it looks like it's in line with its best Zen 4 CPUs.
Sources:
CPU-Z, via @momomo_us
The Ryzen 7 8700G test system was using an ASRock B650 Pro RS motherboard and the APU was paired with 32 GB of DDR5-6400 memory with reasonably tight timings of 32-39-39-102. The tester relied on the integrated Radeon 780M graphics in the APU and the Windows 11 operating system was installed on a 500 GB Seagate BarraCuda 510 SSD. In the single-threaded test the Ryzen 7 8700G scores 675 points vs 683 for the Ryzen 7 7800X3D and in the multi-threaded tests it came in at 7318 vs 7301. Not bad for a 65 W TDP APU vs a 120 W TDP CPU. For comparison, the average for Intel's Core i7-12700KF is 7754 in the mutli-threaded test. Although CPU-Z is far from an exhaustive test, it does at least give us a first glimpse of what to expect from the new Zen 4 APUs from AMD in terms of performance and it looks like it's in line with its best Zen 4 CPUs.
18 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 8700G CPU-Z Results Puts it Neck and Neck with the Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Two things. How much does the X3d cache benefit this particular benchmark? I assume near nothing?
How good is the APU in gaming?
If decent/good this may be a great way of getting a HTPC/1080p/Console replacement for a decent price with the capability of being able to expand at a later date. The need for the ewaste GPUs (think Nvidia xx50/AMD x500 and lower) becomes even less.
The base clock is the same and the max boost is a mere 100 MHz higher for the APU, so it's a pretty fair comparison.
That said, I re-ran CPU-Z just now and the X3D is now only 4 points behind in the multi-threaded test, but this is obviously going to vary a bit between systems. No idea, that will be one of the things we'll find out from the reviews. The only downside is that it's limited to a PCIe x8 interface for the x16 slot, but it might not matter too much, since in the tests done here at TPU to compare PCIe scaling on different graphics cards, it tends to be within 1-2% to go from x8 to x16. Also, no PCIe 5.0, but again, might not matter much.
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I still think X3D would have the lead in most gaming workload.
But APU/Mobile chip CPU performance have been more than enough for quite some time. What would move the needle is much better iGPU performance. Something that could do good 1080p high in recent game would be amazing. we will see what AMD have in the roadmap.
I bought 1k series July 2017 then 5k series Dec 2022. Going to be past the 9k series before Dec 2027.
Either way, I will be sticking to my 5+ years upgrade cycle. So see what's available come summer 2028.
7800X3D will have frequency advantage unless it runs into power limit and it has hell of a cache advantage with 8700G still sporting 16MB. In games, it'll leave 8700G in dust, even before all the PCIe lane shenanigans and such come into play. 8700G will fare even worse against 7000 series because of same or worse frequency disadvantage, 7000 series has 32GB cache and runs at same power limits.
Yes the 7800x3d has more power limits but it has a lower boost clock set due to temperature sensitive on the 3d cache.