Friday, May 31st 2024

ASRock Innovates First AMD Radeon RX 7000 Graphics Card with 12V-2x6 Power Connector

ASRock is ready with the first Radeon RX gaming graphics card to feature a modern 12V-2x6 power connector, replacing the up to three 8-pin PCIe power connectors it took, to power a Radeon RX 7900 series graphics card. The ASRock RX 7900 series WS graphics cards are also the first 2-slot RX 7900 series graphics cards. They target workstations and GPU rendering farms that stack multiple graphics cards into 4U or 5U rackmount cases, with no spacing between 2-slot graphics cards. ASRock is designing cards based on both the RX 7900 XT, and the flagship RX 7900 XTX.

The ASRock RX 7900 series WS graphics cards appear long and no more than 2 slots thick. To achieve these dimensions, a lateral-flow cooling solution is used, which combines a dense aluminium or copper channel heatsink with a lateral blower. Remember we said these cards are meant for workstations or rendering farms? So the noise output will be deafening, at least up to datacenter standards. The most striking aspect of these cards of course is their 12+4 pin ATX 12V-2x6 power input, which is capable of drawing 600 W of continuous power from a single cable. It's located at the card's tail-end, where it would have been an engineering challenge to put three 8-pin connectors.
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94 Comments on ASRock Innovates First AMD Radeon RX 7000 Graphics Card with 12V-2x6 Power Connector

#1
Chaitanya
Absolute stupid decision to put that power connector on product which was heavily marketted as not having that fire hazard of connector.
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#3
Chaitanya
It's located at the card's tail-end, where it would have been an engineering challenge to put three 8-pin connectors.
EVGA didnt have any problems fitting 3x8 pin PCIe Power connectors on tail-end of their Kingpin RTX 2080Ti GPU(Link). Also there are rackmount GPUs which use 8pin CPU power connectors instead of PCIe Plug.
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#4
natr0n
we should online boycott that pos connection
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#5
john_
Fun part.
If these cards don't suffer from burns, it will be absolutely clear that the problem is with Nvidia's design.
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#6
qlum
john_Fun part.
If these cards don't suffer from burns, it will be absolutely clear that the problem is with Nvidia's design.
Work station cards are used differently though, so if they don't it deed oes not mean anything.
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#8
ZoneDymo
hilarious, first of all screw Asrock as a company, but apart from that...innovation through a crappy connector AND then you also dare to throw on a blowerstyle cooler?

I said it before...can we not better just update the now ancient power delivery of the pci-e slot? its been 75 watts since its inception....change that to...oh idk 300 watts?
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#9
Unregistered
ZoneDymohilarious, first of all screw Asrock as a company, but apart from that...innovation through a crappy connector AND then you also dare to throw on a blowerstyle cooler?

I said it before...can we not better just update the now ancient power delivery of the pci-e slot? its been 75 watts since its inception....change that to...oh idk 300 watts?
Yeah man, this is dumb. We definitely don't need new power connector, I hope other companies don't adopt this.
#10
AusWolf
ZoneDymohilarious, first of all screw Asrock as a company, but apart from that...innovation through a crappy connector AND then you also dare to throw on a blowerstyle cooler?

I said it before...can we not better just update the now ancient power delivery of the pci-e slot? its been 75 watts since its inception....change that to...oh idk 300 watts?
Or just get GPU power consumption back to normal human levels to... I don't know... 300 W for high-end (2x8-pin), 150 W for mid-range (1x8-pin) and 75 W (no power connector) for entry level?
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#11
Vayra86
This isnt the melty one right? Thats 12VHPWR, this says 12V 2x6
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#12
Knight47
Vayra86This isnt the melty one right? Thats 12VHPWR, this says 12V 2x6
Yeah, but it's not like there's a massive difference between the two.
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#13
azrael
Not sure I'd call implementing this connector innovation. Idiocy, yes. Innovation, not so much.
Vayra86This isnt the melty one right? Thats 12VHPWR, this says 12V 2x6
It's the *alledgedly* not-melting one. However, I find the changes to the previous revision too miniscule to be convinced of that. Yes, cranky old white guy here.
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#14
ZoneDymo
AusWolfOr just get GPU power consumption back to normal human levels to... I don't know... 300 W for high-end (2x8-pin), 150 W for mid-range (1x8-pin) and 75 W (no power connector) for entry level?
oh 100% agree, im all for it, throwing more power at it is the weakest form of innovation.
Imagine though if we can do 300 watt pci-e slots with 300 watt high end gpu's that then dont need a power connector at all, that would be beautiful.
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#15
Gucky
ChaitanyaEVGA didnt have any problems fitting 3x8 pin PCIe Power connectors on tail-end of their Kingpin RTX 2080Ti GPU(Link). Also there are rackmount GPUs which use 8pin CPU power connectors instead of PCIe Plug.
Guess who pretty much doesn't exist anymore?

The 12V-2xx6 is the next industry standard, if we want it or not. The moment all PSU makers included it in their products, it was set in stone.
Vayra86This isnt the melty one right? Thats 12VHPWR, this says 12V 2x6
It is pretty much the same (they are compatible) with a few tweaks and smaller tolerances.
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#16
ExcuseMeWtf
thesmokingmanWho asked for this shit? :laugh:
Asrock's board of directors, I suppose.
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#17
kondamin
don’t know if I find it funny or sad that people are upset about a connector Meant to make cable management easier.
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#18
csendesmark
Please change the article's title, and put the "innovation" between quote marks.... :slap:
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#19
Wirko
There's only a couple letters separating innovation from ignition.
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#20
AusWolf
kondamindon’t know if I find it funny or sad that people are upset about a connector Meant to make cable management easier.
As long as you're happy to buy a new PSU that supports the standard. I'm not.
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#21
Tomorrow
ChaitanyaEVGA didnt have any problems fitting 3x8 pin PCIe Power connectors on tail-end of their Kingpin RTX 2080Ti GPU(Link). Also there are rackmount GPUs which use 8pin CPU power connectors instead of PCIe Plug.
Exactly. 8pin EPS is a far more elegant solution compared to a new and unproven standard with narrow safety margins.
GuckyGuess who pretty much doesn't exist anymore?
EVGA's GPU business demise had nothing to do with power connectors.
Frankly i think they dodged a bullet by pulling out when they did.
GuckyThe 12V-2xx6 is the next industry standard, if we want it or not. The moment all PSU makers included it in their products, it was set in stone.
Standard for who exactly?. Regular 6pin, 6+2pin and 8pin connectors for PCIe are still present on those PSU's and are not going anywhere anytime soon.
And considering that decent PSU's have 10-12 year warranties then i dont see a big rush of people running to upgrade their PSU.
kondamindon’t know if I find it funny or sad that people are upset about a connector Meant to make cable management easier.
Easier? You call this easier? Having to watch cable bends, unplugging periodically to check for damage and stupid "dongles".
There's nothing "easier" about the new standard. Easier would have been to adopt 8pin EPS already used on workstation cards.
AusWolfAs long as you're happy to buy a new PSU that supports the standard. I'm not.
And most people are not. They're not gonna buy a new PSU.
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#22
Random_User
GuckyGuess who pretty much doesn't exist anymore?

The 12V-2xx6 is the next industry standard, if we want it or not. The moment all PSU makers included it in their products, it was set in stone.


It is pretty much the same (they are compatible) with a few tweaks and smaller tolerances.
No! This is the result of all PSU makers being baited into a scheme with the fragile connector, that is barely any better than 3.5" FDD power counterpart. So now they want to recover the money, spent on this BS.
So far, the one of very few manufacturers, that really avoided the mess, is Corsair, and after all this seems have been a smart move (I'm nowhere near to be fond of this company).
The only reason, why this conncetor is viable among the professional server/workstation area, is because these cards being assembled once, with great attention, and only once in a while, and are not being touch any soon after. Also, the position of the connector is proper.
kondamindon’t know if I find it funny or sad that people are upset about a connector Meant to make cable management easier.
What? You mean the thick stack of cables, sticking to the middle of nowhere, that still requires about the same 200mm clearance (as 12VHPWR itself) in front of it? At least old Mini-Fit 8/6pin PCIE cable could be wiggled in any desirable way, with zero damage and issue.
This connector, however is not the case. And it is unwelcome, outside this very special case, of blower workstation/server card, where it is done by professionals, and only with such end-face location, and direction. For the consumers, this is just no no.
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#23
Gucky
TomorrowStandard for who exactly?. Regular 6pin, 6+2pin and 8pin connectors for PCIe are still present on those PSU's and are not going anywhere anytime soon.
And considering that decent PSU's have 10-12 year warranties then i dont see a big rush of people running to upgrade their PSU.
Of course they are present. There is always a transition phase between 2 standards. That is why 12VO never came to the consumer market, it is impossible to make a transition phase for that.
And there are other things beside GPUs that might use the 6 or 8-Pins.
Random_UserSo far, the one of very few manufacturers, that really avoided the mess, is Corsair,
Maybe they never had any reason to switch. They supply 300W with 8-Pins and can make a native!! adapter with 2x8-Pin to the 12+4-Pin connector. I use such a cable for my GPU.
In the end it reduces some cost for them.
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#25
Random_User
GuckyMaybe they never had any reason to switch. They supply 300W with 8-Pins and can make a native!! adapter with 2x8-Pin to the 12+4-Pin connector. I use such a cable for my GPU.
In the end it reduces some cost for them.
As this is still very "new" and "raw" standard for consumer space, and might as well undergo some future changes.
This was indeed enough to include just the cable itself. But loads of PSU manufacturers went through and added the "uncertain" connector, for consumer grade PSUs. There would be a non-issue, if this 12V-2x6 (and it's predecessor 12VHPWR) would remain workstation/enterprise-only connector. As there would be least of a risk to blame their users of "unprofessional" or "dumb" behaviour. Stick it with the certified folks, and all be fine.
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