Saturday, June 15th 2024
ASUS Unveils SFF-Ready Prime Series GeForce RTX 40-series Graphics Cards
ASUS launched the Prime Series of GeForce RTX 40-series "Ada" graphics cards that meet NVIDIA's new SFF-Ready specification that sets 304 mm x 151 mm x 50 mm (length x height x thickness) as the maximum dimensions for a graphics card to qualify. What's interesting, is that NVIDIA intended for the SFF-Ready standard to apply to performance-segment and enthusiast-class GPUs (RTX 4070 SUPER and up), however, ASUS has designed the Prime series for the RTX 4060 Ti, RTX 4070, and RTX 4070 SUPER; there are no cards in the series based on the RTX 4070 Ti SUPER or the RTX 4080 SUPER, yet.
ASUS is using a common board design for its RTX 4070 SUPER, RTX 4070, and RTX 4060 Ti Prime series graphics cards, which measures 269 mm x 120 mm x 50 mm, while the heatsink and PCB underneath the cooler shroud may vary between the RTX 4070/SUPER and the RTX 4060 Ti cards. The cooler uses a trio of 70 mm fans to ventilate an aluminium fin-stack heatsink, much of the airflow from the third fan goes through the heatsink and back out from a large cutout in the backplate. The RTX 4070 and RTX 4060 Ti cards use single 8-pin PCIe power inputs, while the RTX 4070 SUPER uses a 16-pin 12VHPWR input. There are a total of six SKUs, two per GPU, one of which sticks to the NVIDIA reference clock speeds, and the other being an OC SKU with a minor factory overclock.
ASUS is using a common board design for its RTX 4070 SUPER, RTX 4070, and RTX 4060 Ti Prime series graphics cards, which measures 269 mm x 120 mm x 50 mm, while the heatsink and PCB underneath the cooler shroud may vary between the RTX 4070/SUPER and the RTX 4060 Ti cards. The cooler uses a trio of 70 mm fans to ventilate an aluminium fin-stack heatsink, much of the airflow from the third fan goes through the heatsink and back out from a large cutout in the backplate. The RTX 4070 and RTX 4060 Ti cards use single 8-pin PCIe power inputs, while the RTX 4070 SUPER uses a 16-pin 12VHPWR input. There are a total of six SKUs, two per GPU, one of which sticks to the NVIDIA reference clock speeds, and the other being an OC SKU with a minor factory overclock.
83 Comments on ASUS Unveils SFF-Ready Prime Series GeForce RTX 40-series Graphics Cards
Card makers will milk the new branding for all its worth by enlarging lower end GPUs into this form factor that they have zero business being in. Like the 4060 Ti and 4070 Super here.
The 4070 Ti Super is slightly more understandable butit's literally still just what the status quo already was (maybe for everyone except Asus, who still can't seem to grasp the concept of "compact" for everything that doesn't have a Dual model). Scratch that, 4070 Ti Super also has a Dual, so Asus truly put zero effort into this line.While at the same time they have zero interest in applying the standard to make smaller cards that actually matter (4080s and 4090s) because 1) they believe they won't sell in high enough volumes 2) bigger card = more marketing = better.
What a dumb joke.
Asus TUF 4070 Super width: 139mm
Asus Prime width: 120mm
Gonna build an SFF for my pal soon :D
www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/news/small-form-factor-sff-ready/
But looks like it will only be on partner cards.
I also think the 2.5 slot limit is too big, they need to cap it to dual slot.
In my books, SFF means single slot, or low profile graphics cards, or double slot but then no longer than the PCI-e connector. No Nvidia marketing BS will change that.
Who exactly, whilst appreciating their more compact sizes, is complaining about 65C on the Dual or 70C on the FE? All I see is rather proportionate performance out of Dual and FE in relation to their size. TUF is a 300mm card, Master is 342mm. Technically sub-2 slot Ghost is straight up just not a good choice.
Small FE should be the benchmark size for "SFF-ready". Nvidia's current "SFF-ready" standard can be an extension that should be applied only to 4080/4080S/4090, as it is meaningless for any of the lower cards.
This guy has the same idea LOL
Furthermore you can fine tune the fan speed for a quieter gaming experience, especially when the SFF build sit right next to you.
So why did Asus think "PRIME will be a great fit for this segment. Those premium buyers will love the low-rent cheap back plastic instead of high-quality aluminium. Also, it's SFF so we'd better make the backplate a few mm thicker than usual to, uh.... Hey, look over there! A squirrel!!"
Honestly, the only thing that really matters for some SFF builds is the position of the power connector and its infernal minimum bend radius. If Asus were going to innovate one single thing for this it would be right-angle power connector or a set of low-profile right-angle adapters in the box.
If GPUs weren't supposed to be used in AV stacks then why did AMD and Nvidia push HDR, HDMI, Atmos/DTS bitstream passthrough, and all these other TV-first features that existed in the AV space long before they came to desktop gaming setups?
SFF is something like this:
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/small-form-factor-gaming-build-log-and-support-forum-for-new-builders.283022/post-5143053
Especially if someone manages to make a smaller card with same cooling performance, that would be the true marvel.
I think it must be possible to make a FE card, that has the same core design but just chop a bit of its height so its a 2 slot card. It should be cheaper to manufacture as well. If needs be drop its power limit a little bit.
I also agree with Auswolf, so even though I say 2 slot max, I agree with what he is saying SFF is the wrong terminology to use unless its a 1 slot card.
From a business POV, it's understandable that the 4060 ti will be as good as it can get, sub 10 liters builds are a niche within the niche: on the SFF PC discord, most builds are around the 10 liters mark. Cases like the fractal terra are probably what those guys are targeting for compatibility.
When the creator of Dan Cases saw the specs of AiB RTX 4000, he had to get back to drawing boards and make the C4 SFX bigger, and even then, some GPUs caused issues because of how the power cable was implemented. If you couldn't get an FE, building a ~10 liter sff case could be painful with that generation, even with those cases being designed to fit 3 slots GPUs from the ampere era.
Those GPUs are still not as good as the 4070 FE, but it is better than the first batch of GPU. Waiting to see a 4080 though
They basically took the upper bound dimensions and said it's the limit
I don't mind 3 slot GPU, but can I get single fan 3 slot GPU?
@Noyand a single fan 4070 is very doable if OEMs are competent, it's ~200W just like single fan 1080/2070/3060Ti