Tuesday, August 27th 2024
AMD Ryzen 9000 Series "Zen 5" Tested on Windows 11 24H2 Update, Shows Significant Performance Gains
AMD's Ryzen processors have received a significant performance upgrade, thanks to the recent Windows 11 24H2 update. This development addresses initial disappointments with the Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" series performance, particularly in gaming applications. The update, which improves branch prediction capabilities, has resulted in substantial gains for both the Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" and Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" CPU lineups. According to tests by Hardware Unboxed, Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" CPUs have shown double-digit performance increases across multiple game titles, a boost typically seen only between generational upgrades.
Interestingly, contrary to AMD's initial claims, the performance gains are not limited to the Zen 5 architecture. The Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors have also benefited from the update, with minimal performance differences observed between comparable Zen 5 and Zen 4 models after the update. This development marks a crucial turning point for AMD, addressing earlier criticisms and narrowing the gap between reported and expected performance figures. As users install the Windows 11 24H2 update, they can expect enhanced gaming experiences across a wide range of titles, highlighting the complex interplay between hardware capabilities and software optimization in modern computing. Below are the results from Hardware Unboxed benchmarks.
Source:
via Wccftech
Interestingly, contrary to AMD's initial claims, the performance gains are not limited to the Zen 5 architecture. The Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors have also benefited from the update, with minimal performance differences observed between comparable Zen 5 and Zen 4 models after the update. This development marks a crucial turning point for AMD, addressing earlier criticisms and narrowing the gap between reported and expected performance figures. As users install the Windows 11 24H2 update, they can expect enhanced gaming experiences across a wide range of titles, highlighting the complex interplay between hardware capabilities and software optimization in modern computing. Below are the results from Hardware Unboxed benchmarks.
102 Comments on AMD Ryzen 9000 Series "Zen 5" Tested on Windows 11 24H2 Update, Shows Significant Performance Gains
sneaky sneaky Microsoft and intel keeping amd down with their putting more effort behind it.
shame he didn’t do a reference test with an intel machine to see how that does under the patched up windows
You even pay for Windows and still get this. What do you pay for, moving taskbar icons from left to center, rounding window corners, and showing ads?
W1zzard, will you re-test 9700X in games and 9950X in applications with Win11 24H2 update?
I know you have lot of work to do but it'd be really good to see the difference (former review vs. newer one).
Anyway, does this "admin bug" also affect Windows 10?
Of course I'm assuming here that the crucial parts of the Windows scheduler are written by AMD/Intel/Qualcomm as some kind of "CPU drivers". MS just gets to decide if and when they are included in Windows updates. Is that not the case?
It seems that Windows 11 24H2 is not obtainable without "hacks" or extra work.
I updated a few days ago. Yesterday I checked with the command "winver". I'm stuck at another version. Windows 11 Pro had here the problem, I had to upgrade the version manually, last time, around October 2023-February 2024. Could be the issue that I do not use a Microsoft Email adress for the windows login option, secure boot or TPM.
According to 20 minutes websearch yesterday, how to upgrade to Windows 11 Pro 24H2.
- windows insider -> which most likely needs a microsoft accoutn and you are instantly loocked out or locked in with that email adress - which is bad in my point of view
- download an ISO -> Not sure if that ISO is already available to the public -> there are different informations for that. -> still unclear if this is a safe and official iso or not.
- different websites claim, W11 24H2 may be released in September or October. I assume year 2024.
Yes - I read it somewhere. It affects different processor "versions" and w10 and w11. It is a generic hidden performance penalty bug.It seems to be this - I have not tested it - check before you use it: www.neowin.net/news/windows-hidden-admin-account-apparently-boosting-amd-ryzen-90007000-performance/
or www.howtogeek.com/962/enable-the-hidden-administrator-account-on-windows-vista/
What this mainly shows is how poor Windows is generally these days.
Very curious about the X3D CPUs as well though.
I am still on Windows 10 22H2 though and planning to stick with 10 until end of support because i never liked 11 to be honest, so I'll be missing out on the gains. Sadge
Windows was unable to utilize new architecture properly, it was treating all cores as if they were the same, sometimes putting heavy load on e-cores.
Did Intel have time to work with Microsoft prior to launch of Alder Lake? Definitely. Did Microsoft have time to modify scheduler mechanism? Definitely.
Same applies to AMD's Zen 5 launch.
What makes a difference, however, is that Zen 5 worked on Linux properly out of the box. How come?
(Alder's Lake change was a big one, so Linux needed some time to get adapted, but it did.)
Now another set of questions:
Does MS actually care that their system does not utilize their partner's newest CPU architecture properly and puts heavy load on wrong cores? No. They, maybe they don't even know.
Does MS actually care that the same hardware performs better on a free OS and sometimes even when under emulation? No. Because MS rules 'em all. What's Linucs, anyway?
Do AMD and Intel care that their hardware performs worse in Windows? Yes, they must care, because Windows is an OS which is used by vast majority of systems that utilize their CPUs.
MS is (and always have been) like: "We are the leaders, we create new things. Here are the requirements, go get used to it." Examples: Windows OS, DirectX, Copilot, MS Store, ...
But the flow may go as well the other way. Sometimes it's OS that needs to adapt. Linux prepares kernel for upcoming new interfaces and changes in architecture (mostly) in advance. And it's a free OS.
The funny thing about it is that MS is literally done without AMD's/Intel's x86. So, MS should really care, too. Zen 5 architecture will be applied to EPYCs which run their Azure and other server stuff.
If not for that, then be it their commitment because people pay for that piece-o-sheet OS.
What really makes me think that this is mostly on MS is that it's all connected to some hidden admin account with some special OS privileges.
These are not separate developments either. I think AMD was actually first to start on the core distinction part with the Preferred cores.
Linux usually "works properly" for either of two main reasons - manufacturers directly contribute code to it or the optimization target is different. Plus, Linux is not or does not have a single optimization target. Just look at the Phoronix' Zen5 stories and the difference between Clear Linux and Ubuntu.
MS cares about being optimized enough. However when it comes to utilizing new CPU architecture properly it is very difficult for OS developer to know what exactly "properly" is :)
Show me the last time a new Windows version caused such gaming performance uplift, regardless of CPU brand.