Friday, August 30th 2024

AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Launched in the US as a MicroCenter-exclusive for $300, Part of a Bundle

We've known for the past couple of weeks that AMD is working on the Ryzen 5 7600X3D—a 6-core/12-thread processor based on the older "Zen 4" microarchitecture, but featuring 3D V-cache that enables significant gaming performance uplifts. The company finally launched the chip, but here's the bummer—it's only available in the US, and is a MicroCenter exclusive, where's it's going for $299.99. Here's the second bummer—you can't buy the processor on its own, but in a 3-part bundle that includes it, an ASUS TUF Gaming B650-Plus Wi-Fi motherboard, and an unspecified brand of 32 GB (2x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 memory kit. When you add up the prices of the three parts when purchased separately, you arrive at $630, but MicroCenter is selling the bundle for an impressive $450—a $180 discount.

The AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D comes with a maximum boost frequency of 4.70 GHz, which is a steep 600 MHz fall from that of the regular Ryzen 5 7600X, and 400 MHz less than that of the 65 W Ryzen 5 7600 (non-X). Much like the 7600, the 7600X3D comes with a 65 W TDP. Where it loses on clock speeds, it makes up for with its large cache—1 MB of L2 cache per core, and 96 MB of L3 cache (or 102 MB of L2+L3 "total cache."). The bundle could offer good value for those building PCs from scratch, or coming in from the older Socket AM4 platform. The TUF Gaming B650-Plus Wi-Fi is a fairly feature-packed mid-range ATX motherboard.
Source: Tom's Hardware
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120 Comments on AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Launched in the US as a MicroCenter-exclusive for $300, Part of a Bundle

#101
neatfeatguy
WastelandI'm torn on that aspect of the debate. Yes, it's a shame that the 7600x3d is only available at a particular retailer that only has a few locations. It's also a shame that the 7600x3d is bundle-only. But Microcenter is a relatively small player, and I'm glad it still exists. What are our alternatives, these days? Amazon, Newegg, and Best Buy? It looks like MC has managed to survive by offering in-store-exclusive deals to draw in foot traffic. If that's what it takes, then God speed.

If AMD had enough supply for a global release, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
That's not all that MC offers to draw in foot traffic.

I'd so much rather walk into a local store so I can see what I'm getting and if by some chance I have a question I can ask a knowledgeable person there. Most of the guys I've spoken with at Micro Center are like a lot of us on this site - they have first hand experience with hardware, many like computers and use them daily for gaming or work. Don't forget that they actually have very capable workers that can build/repair/diagnose computer issues (unlike many of Geek Squad workers for Best Buy).

Lastly you get to be hands on with merchandise. There's just something about being able to pick up a part, examine it, read the info on the box and walk out the store with anything you purchased on the spot - no waiting for shipping. I make it my priority to hit up my local MC over buying hardware online, but sometimes awesome deals arise online that MC can't match or they don't have specifically what I'm looking for. I'd say 7 times out of 10 I can get what I need from MC and have it that same day.

One time I purchased a new motherboard at MC. Got home with it and it was DOA. Drove back, got a replacement within a 30 minute timeframe and back home. I didn't have to wait days for an online place to ship me one after I ship mine back (I think MC will actually test MB/RAM for you). Or have a charge held on my bank card until my defective item was received back by the shipper.

I think a lot of people forget about the benefits of brick and mortar stores and simply run with, "I can save a buck from buying this online." or "It saves me time ordering online." Sure, you can get some small benefits from doing so, but I find the convenience of going into the store better over buying online.

Remember that Fry's used to be a thing, along with CompUSA, NCIX and even TigerDirect had a few store locations. We used to have more options out there, but with the online shift a lot of it has go away. I'm hoping that MC doesn't go this route and I don't think it will anytime soon - the store near me is always busy.

The way I see it, if these small exclusives help get a few more feet into their stores then I'm okay with it.
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#102
InVasMani
RaceT3chCertainly enough 6 core X3D yields if there's a 7900X3D
Sure if you take margins and profit consideration out of the equation. They could certainly put their efforts towards making more 6C X3D parts, but it doesn't mean it's going to be more the profitable thing for the company to do so automatically. You have to also consider how relatively difficult the X3D cache itself is to manufacturer and how quickly they can ramp production of it.
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#103
RaceT3ch
InVasManiSure if you take margins and profit consideration out of the equation. They could certainly put their efforts towards making more 6C X3D parts, but it doesn't mean it's going to be more the profitable thing for the company to do so automatically. You have to also consider how relatively difficult the X3D cache itself is to manufacturer and how quickly they can ramp production of it.
What profit and margins?
All the 7900X3D serves is a really weird category where its worse than a 7800X3D in games (and cost about the same) and performs slightly worse than the 7900X cause cache doesn't do much in productivity.
No one wants to buy this, making no profit.
A global 7600X3D though?
Gives people a reason to get to AM5, or gives people an extra 50-100 on the GPU.
Would sell like crazy.
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#104
InVasMani
It would eat into sales of 7800X3D and I'm sure there are scenario's where the cache is beneficial relative to 7900X though like the other X3D it's going to be mixed for productivity where in some cases it'll perform worse. The main reason is the additional cores which either 7900X or 7900X3D is going to be better than a 7800X/7800X3D in scenario's that can leverage the additional cores. I don't know if TSMC could keep up with the supply and demand to manufacture enough X3D cache for 7600X3D parts in high quantity. It's possible it could or maybe that isn't very realistic. I'm sure AMD has weighed it's reasons for launching things the way it has up to this point. You don't have to like it or agree with it as a consumer, but I'm positive Lisa Su knows what she's doing quite well the company has done very well under her leadership.
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#105
A Computer Guy
neatfeatguyThat's not all that MC offers to draw in foot traffic.

I'd so much rather walk into a local store so I can see what I'm getting and if by some chance I have a question I can ask a knowledgeable person there. Most of the guys I've spoken with at Micro Center are like a lot of us on this site - they have first hand experience with hardware, many like computers and use them daily for gaming or work. Don't forget that they actually have very capable workers that can build/repair/diagnose computer issues (unlike many of Geek Squad workers for Best Buy).

Lastly you get to be hands on with merchandise. There's just something about being able to pick up a part, examine it, read the info on the box and walk out the store with anything you purchased on the spot - no waiting for shipping. I make it my priority to hit up my local MC over buying hardware online, but sometimes awesome deals arise online that MC can't match or they don't have specifically what I'm looking for. I'd say 7 times out of 10 I can get what I need from MC and have it that same day.

One time I purchased a new motherboard at MC. Got home with it and it was DOA. Drove back, got a replacement within a 30 minute timeframe and back home. I didn't have to wait days for an online place to ship me one after I ship mine back (I think MC will actually test MB/RAM for you). Or have a charge held on my bank card until my defective item was received back by the shipper.

I think a lot of people forget about the benefits of brick and mortar stores and simply run with, "I can save a buck from buying this online." or "It saves me time ordering online." Sure, you can get some small benefits from doing so, but I find the convenience of going into the store better over buying online.

Remember that Fry's used to be a thing, along with CompUSA, NCIX and even TigerDirect had a few store locations. We used to have more options out there, but with the online shift a lot of it has go away. I'm hoping that MC doesn't go this route and I don't think it will anytime soon - the store near me is always busy.

The way I see it, if these small exclusives help get a few more feet into their stores then I'm okay with it.
CompUSA was great in that they often had unique parts and accessories other stores didn't have. Stopping by there used to be a weekly affair to see what new stuff they had.
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#107
Wasteland
WastelandI was just on Microcenter's site the other day, and if my memory's accurate, the 7800x3d was $360 then. I could swear the price was even lower a few weeks ago. Now it's $380, lol. I don't know whether the 7800x3d's wandering price tag is designed to make the 6-core variant more attractive, or whether it's part of a more general response to Zen 5's poor sales' figures, but either way it's disappointing.
Just looked again. The 7800x3d is now up to $400, and its cheapest bundle is now $600--I think that was $100 cheaper a couple of weeks ago. It was at least $50 cheaper a few days ago.

In other words, if there were questions about the value proposition for the 7600x3d vs 7800x3d, those questions have been settled in the worst way. There is now a $150 gap between the 6-core and 8-core bundles at Microcenter.
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#108
Sarajiel
WastelandIn other words, if there were questions about the value proposition for the 7600x3d vs 7800x3d, those questions have been settled in the worst way.
It's basically the same for the Mindfactory offer in Germany. It's only the boxed CPU, no need to purchase any bundle.

The 7800X3D was sold for less than the new 7600X3D from late May '24 to mid-July '24. Interestingly, the Euro is now stronger against the US dollar, which is usually the driver of the volatility for CPU pricing over here. For comparison, the 7950X3D barely moved at the same time outside the usual fluctuations when the retailers game their search position at the price comparison sites.
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#110
Geofrancis
RaceT3chThe 7900X3D has the same 6 core dies, and yet that thing is sold globally. (whether if anyone actually buys it)
So it's definitely not low volume if they released the same thing with an extra CCD a while ago.
thats the point its supposed to be bad value, they have a limited supply, if they sold them cheaper they would just sell out.
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#111
529th
tl:dr

as long as it's in a bundle, cpu mb and ram, the CPU will be discounted, so pick your own MB and RAM and the CPU will still retain the discount
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#112
DAPUNISHER
sodiumI'm sick of seeing Micocenter exclusive sales advertised everywhere because only a small percentage of people have access to one of their locations. If you have access to a Microcenter and you're an enthusiast of literally anything that plugs into a PC your default move would be to check there first anyways.
User name checks out :laugh: Germans will be able to purchase it now too, so that's a good thing.
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#113
Dragokar
DAPUNISHERUser name checks out :laugh: Germans will be able to purchase it now too, so that's a good thing.
Well basically close to everyone in the EU.
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#114
kapone32
RaceT3chWhat profit and margins?
All the 7900X3D serves is a really weird category where its worse than a 7800X3D in games (and cost about the same) and performs slightly worse than the 7900X cause cache doesn't do much in productivity.
No one wants to buy this, making no profit.
A global 7600X3D though?
Gives people a reason to get to AM5, or gives people an extra 50-100 on the GPU.
Would sell like crazy.
Did you use one?
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#115
BatRastard
WastelandJust looked again. The 7800x3d is now up to $400, and its cheapest bundle is now $600--I think that was $100 cheaper a couple of weeks ago. It was at least $50 cheaper a few days ago.

In other words, if there were questions about the value proposition for the 7600x3d vs 7800x3d, those questions have been settled in the worst way. There is now a $150 gap between the 6-core and 8-core bundles at Microcenter.
And it's just 6% slower than the 7800X3D but consumes 50 to 55 watts on average. Excellent efficiency; dogshit on price ...
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#116
68Olds
They're here... :)

25+ in-stock @ my local MC.

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#117
Gmr_Chick
I love ya AMD, but *sigh* Y U DO DIS?! Speaking solely for my fellow Americans, not all of us live near a Micro Center, or even have one in whatever state we live in! By making this a Micro Center-only thing, you're basically cutting off a large part of your prospective buyers. :shadedshu:
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#118
DAPUNISHER
I think it is great AMD is supporting MicroCenter and Mindfactory by helping to drive more biz and foot traffic with exclusives like the 5600X3D and 7600X3D. Newegg sucks now, and is in bad shape financially. I don't know how much longer they will be around with how bad the management and operations are. Amazon as the only big retailer will not be a good thing either, to greatly understate the matter. Best Buy, while I am stoked they returned to carrying everything necessary to build a PC, has a extremely limited selection in store.

MC just opened in Miami, 4hrs away, and I am hopeful it will do well, and we will get one in Orlando next. Having one an hour or so away is the dream. Exclusives like the 7600X3D have helped them become well known in other countries. Publicity like this never hurts.
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#119
529th
new egg = last f'n option to buy anything
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