You guys are being selfish. Just think about all the scalpers that would be out of work if they didn't have exclusive bundled deals like this with limited MC store availability. Hmmmmmm!!!

Do AMD deliberately shoot themselves in the foot or what?

They don't have enough to put through the normal supply chain, they did not shit the bed. I'm not happy I'm not close to an MC, but it is what it is.

You know that something is wrong with AMD when they can't even properly execute "far too little and far too late" correctly. I said almost two years ago that the lack of an "R5-7600X3D" was going to seriously hamper the adoption rate of the AM5 platform. I branded AMD's choice to produce Ryzen 9 X3D CPUs instead of Ryzen 5 X3D CPUs as both cynical and stupid because, at the time, the costs for AM5 motherboards and DDR5 RAM was so high that I think most people (myself included) who were already on AM4 decided to just get an R7-5800X3D and ignore AM5 because of how expensive the upgrade would be. That's what prompted the creation of the R5-5600X3D and R7-5700X3D.

When your platform is expected to have amazing longevity (an expectation created by how incredible AM4 was and still is), your business model should be to reward the early adopters because, by choosing AM5, they have essentially become a captive CPU market for as long as your platform lasts. It's the same incredibly successful business model that Sony employed with the Playstation. Don't worry about making money hand-over-fist in the beginning because once the people have invested in your platform, it makes no financial sense for them to switch until your platform is dead (and by then, hopefully, you have a new platform for them). We've seen from several members of the tech press what the gaming performance of the R5-7600X3D would be by using an R9-7900X with its non-X3D CCX disabled. That further solidified my expectation that it would've been a crushing success (crushing to Intel I mean). Now, all I can do is sit back and laugh at how AMD's R9-7900X has been the biggest failure of Zen 4. They could've made two R5-7600X3Ds for every one R9-7900X that they did make and they probably would've outsold every other CPU of that generation combined. Let's be honest here, an R7-7800X3D is essentially half of an R9-7950X3D so there was nothing preventing them from doing the same thing with an R9-7900X except stupidity and greed.

So now AMD has finally smartened up and made a Ryzen 5 X3D CPU on the AM5 platform, but they even managed to screw up this "too little, too late" effort by having it as a Micro Center exclusive. The optics of this are horrible as it's a slap in the face to not only >90% of the world, but also to >75% of the US population as well. Back when AMD released the R5-5600X3D as a limited-run Micro Center exclusive we didn't mind it so much because X3D was still a new thing and it was the first time that they attached the 3D V-Cache to a hexacore CPU, something that isn't true today. Thus far, the R5-7600X3D has existed since the dawn of AM5 X3D CPUs as one half of the ill-fated R9-7900X3D. This time, AMD has literally no excuse for both the lack of R5-7600X3D from the very beginning nor do they have any excuse for making this a lame "Micro Center-Only" product.

Who the hell is running product development and distribution over there, Beavis and Butthead?

Just wait for the 9700X3D. You know it is coming but the 7800X3D is the number 1 selling CPU in the world so that could be why it is not world wide. This will certainly drive traffic in Microcenter and yes they could have paid a premium to have that chip as an exclusive. We also have to keep in mind that there are more of those as well. For me the PC marketplace is in flux as the prices of MBs and GPUs got stupid but the performance of current offerings is at a level where once you pull the trigger you will be hard pressed to spend more to get more performance. Just look at X870E, those MBs will not be as flexible as X670E due to USB 4 eating 4 lanes of 4.0 from the CPU but none of the MB vendors have made an effort to mitigate that vs PCIe availability.

The bundle is great though if you have access to it.

Cheap gear for wealthy americans: Why yes please!
Cheap gear for emergent markets: Ew no stay away

I love AMD and I love all AMD diehard fans equally :)

Dr. DroCheap gear for wealthy americans: Why yes please!
Cheap gear for emergent markets: Ew no stay away

I love AMD and I love all AMD diehard fans equally :)

Wealthy Americans? Is AMD based in Turkey? Emerging markets are just discovering AM3 and in some cases AM4. Do you even understand what AM4 has created with support across all generations of MBs? Just think that we got new CPUs for AM4 this year. Give it 5 years and AM5 will be there too. DDR5 RAM is no longer expensive and only the best (In terms of flexibility) MBs are super expensive.

So, it's a non existing product from a somewhat calm perspective, a trolling at the face of everyone who doesn't live next to a MicroCenter from a somewhat less calm perspective.
Nice. Making more consumers angry at your company than happy, must be a new marketing strategy that I haven't heard until now.

This is a non-product like the 5600X3D.

They only have a handful of these and instead of making them widely available which immediately sell out, thus disappointing everyone because almost nobody got them, they're restricting it to a limited access vendor.

The number of disappointed people doesn't change but they get that out of the way out front, and distribution is easy thanks to a single vendor. Makes the same sense as the 5600X3D.

Not sure what the claim of a product only being available to "wealthy Americans" is supposed to mean, wealthy Americans aren't buying these bundle deals, they're probably buying the 7950X3D.
Emerging markets aren't buying the latest hardware from AMD or Intel.
I love how the Intel diehards try to bash AMD at every chance lol.

Lew ZealandThis is a non-product like the 5600X3D.

They only have a handful of these and instead of making them widely available which immediately sell out, thus disappointing everyone because almost nobody got them, they're restricting it to a limited access vendor.

The number of disappointed people doesn't change but they get that out of the way out front, and distribution is easy thanks to a single vendor. Makes the same sense as the 5600X3D.

It would be nice if they did something special for these limited runs like CPU's signed by Lisa Su with laser etching so they also become hysterical collectors items.

kapone32Wealthy Americans? Is AMD based in Turkey? Emerging markets are just discovering AM3 and in some cases AM4. Do you even understand what AM4 has created with support across all generations of MBs? Just think that we got new CPUs for AM4 this year. Give it 5 years and AM5 will be there too. DDR5 RAM is no longer expensive and only the best (In terms of flexibility) MBs are super expensive.

You have a pretty weird view of things. The point is that income disparity between the US and emergent markets is simply insane. A cheaper entry into next-generation technology is needed in these markets. Not in America where someone earning minimum wage can build a high-end PC with a week or two's paycheck.

Besides, you're excluded from being able to buy this too.

Dr. DroYou have a pretty weird view of things. The point is that income disparity between the US and emergent markets is simply insane. A cheaper entry into next-generation technology is needed in these markets. Not in America where someone earning minimum wage can build a high-end PC with a week or two's paycheck.

Besides, you're excluded from being able to buy this too.

2 weeks paycheck at minimum wage after taxes where I live in the US would barely buy you the 7600x3d bundle.

Idk why people are blaming AMD for neo-capitalism. As a publicly traded company in our society they have a fiduciary duty to stockholders to extract as much money as possible.

Dr. DroYou have a pretty weird view of things. The point is that income disparity between the US and emergent markets is simply insane. A cheaper entry into next-generation technology is needed in these markets. Not in America where someone earning minimum wage can build a high-end PC with a week or two's paycheck.

Besides, you're excluded from being able to buy this too.

Yep they do make 20-25 an hour out here flipping burgers but a half decent apartment is 2200-2600 usd a month with electricity being 45-65 (generation/cost) cents a kilowatt depending on time of day I doubt they care much for any pc parts lol.

oxrufiioxoTechnically it's pretty cheap becuase it's only sold in a bundle for 180 USD off retail.

It's a fake MSRP that you can't even buy it for if you wanted to just to make the bundle look like a better value than it really is.

This tactic screws over anyone who just wants to buy the cpu, and will likely keep the second hand market pricing high as well.



Likely a very limited diy supply with the majority going to oem.

Bundle is like $80-$100's off basically since since the MSRP on the 7600X3D listed is a bit delusional and a good $80-$100's too high. So the bundle is moderately alright, but not particularly great at the same time.

InVasManiBundle is like $80-$100's off basically since since the MSRP on the 7600X3D listed is a bit delusional and a good $80-$100's too high. So the bundle is moderately alright, but not particularly great at the same time.

Yeah, the cheapest I can see them pricing it is $229 and microcenter usually has a 20-50 off bundle deal so the real saving isn't as impressive for sure.

Honestly the 7800X3D bundles were way better.

It's why I mentioned the fake msrp to make the deal look better.

Dr. DroYou have a pretty weird view of things. The point is that income disparity between the US and emergent markets is simply insane. A cheaper entry into next-generation technology is needed in these markets. Not in America where someone earning minimum wage can build a high-end PC with a week or two's paycheck.

Besides, you're excluded from being able to buy this too.

That is interesting since you are an avid Nvidia user. You also like to bag on AMD. Why would you care if they are not doing what you want.. As I said before AM4 is still very capable and sending them to emergent markets is much better than landfill

Deceptive advertising of sorts with a phony MSRP to make appear like a better deal than it is in reality. I hate seeing that as a consumer that marketing trick is used all the time. Anyways sometimes AMD deserving does need to be bagged on a bit, but same is true of Intel and Nvidia. I'm glad to see a 6C X3D AM5 chip to be honest though it's not priced appropriately it appears. I'm sure the only reason AMD is making these as well is likely just due to salvaging defective chips. Hopefully we might even see a 4X3D AM5 chip and priced well. It's a good thing to have economical functional chips that are cost effective and good enough.

i guess AMD foundry cap is lower than i expected if they resorted to this

Ahhh... the Micro Center Bundle treatment. This one stings a little, if only because by all means an X3D Ryzen 5 product should be available by now. It fits into a very good niche of being specifically great for gaming and little else, with the Ryzen 7 X3D being the premium version that's also kind of okay in workstation stuff and the Ryzen 9 X3D parts taking up the latter half of the spectrum.

I'm surprised that yields are in the same kind of goldilocks zone for the CCDs and V-cache that they can employ the exact same strategy as with the 5600X3D. Somehow I was hoping they were worse, but in the way that the distribution shifted down slightly as opposed to higher trash chip output outright.

Dr. DroCheap gear for wealthy americans: Why yes please!
Cheap gear for emergent markets: Ew no stay away

I love AMD and I love all AMD diehard fans equally :)

It brings up the question as to why do some countries offer the AMD Ryzen 5 7500F while other countries do not. Germany and Poland had access to that cpu long before any other EU countries did and some EU and non EU countries still don't offer that cpu.

This is why in every market there's a need for another competitor to keep the other one in check. As soon as one company rises up and becomes the obvious choice, they turn and start doing bullcrap like this. Like honestly AMD what's even the benefit of even doing this?

I kind of want to stop by Microcenter this week to pick up this bundle just to bench it.

grr how dare amd put out an exclusive low volume product

Yeh no wonder I've switched back to Intel in 2022, anything AMD in my country is actually overpriced and they also kind of exited the budget market so when I've picked up a 12100F at the time AMD had literally nothing on the market to compete with that. 'both performance and price wise'
AM 5 and their mobos nowadays, yeah forget about it its still a nope for users like me. 'heck even a 5700-5800X3D is way too expensive for AM 4'
Funny cause it used to be the other way around, AMD for budget low cost users and Intel for the 'rich'. 'I've had more AMD CPUs in the past than Intel for that very reason'

Btw that bundled Asus mobo on its own is 230$ where I live so theres that..:laugh: 'and no we don't have bundle prices like that at all'