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AMD to Unify Gaming "RDNA" and Data Center "CDNA" into "UDNA": Singular GPU Architecture Similar to NVIDIA's CUDA

According to new information from Tom's Hardware, AMD has announced plans to unify its consumer-focused gaming RDNA and data center CDNA graphics architectures into a single, unified design called "UDNA." The announcement was made by AMD's Jack Huynh, Senior Vice President and General Manager of the Computing and Graphics Business Group, at IFA 2024 in Berlin. The goal of the new UDNA architecture is to provide a single focus point for developers so that each optimized application can run on consumer-grade GPU like Radeon RX 7900XTX as well as high-end data center GPU like Instinct MI300. This will create a unification similar to NVIDIA's CUDA, which enables CUDA-focused developers to run applications on everything ranging from laptops to data centers.
Jack HuynhSo, part of a big change at AMD is today we have a CDNA architecture for our Instinct data center GPUs and RDNA for the consumer stuff. It's forked. Going forward, we will call it UDNA. There'll be one unified architecture, both Instinct and client [consumer]. We'll unify it so that it will be so much easier for developers versus today, where they have to choose and value is not improving.
According to Jack Huynh, AMD "made some mistakes with the RDNA side; each time we change the memory hierarchy, the subsystem, it has to reset the matrix on the optimizations. I don't want to do that. So, going forward, we're thinking about not just RDNA 5, RDNA 6, RDNA 7, but UDNA 6 and UDNA 7. We plan the next three generations because once we get the optimizations, I don't want to have to change the memory hierarchy, and then we lose a lot of optimizations. So, we're kind of forcing that issue about full forward and backward compatibility. We do that on Xbox today; it's very doable but requires advanced planning. It's a lot more work to do, but that's the direction we're going."

When AMD originally separated CDNA from RDNA, the company wanted to create two separate entities and thought it would be easier to manage. However, it couldn't be further from the truth. Having two separate teams for optimizations is a nightmare both logistically and engineering-wise. Hence, the shift to a monolithic structure of GPU architectures is beneficial to the company in the long term and will ease the development of newer products with both gaming-focused and compute-focused teams at work. This strategy is similar to NVIDIA's CUDA, which has maintained its architecture line in a single lane, with added special accelerators for AI or/or ray tracing, which AMD also plans to do.
Source: Tom's Hardware
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56 Comments on AMD to Unify Gaming "RDNA" and Data Center "CDNA" into "UDNA": Singular GPU Architecture Similar to NVIDIA's CUDA

#51
Makaveli
lasYeah you saw and commented on a 1 year old video, years ago :laugh:Sounds legit.

You are in full denial mode :laugh: Do you also refuse to believe that AMD is doing bad in the GPU space?
That video came out in july 2023 so its over a year old. And nobody needs to be in denial mode for facts that he is comparing an AIB model to a reference card.

You can continue doing your thing I understand why LittleBro choose to ignore the rest of your post and I shall do the same Peace!
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#52
las
MakaveliThat video came out in july 2023 so its over a year old. And nobody needs to be in denial mode for facts that he is comparing an AIB model to a reference card.

You can continue doing your thing I understand why LittleBro choose to ignore the rest of your post and I shall do the same Peace!
So 1 year and a few months is several years? Makes sense.

Keep denying facts, no-one really cares. AMD is losing GPU marketshare quarter for quarter, that is reality. Accept it.
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#53
Makaveli
lasSo 1 year and a few months is several years? Makes sense.

Keep denying facts, no-one really cares. AMD is losing GPU marketshare quarter for quarter, that is reality. Accept it.
I like how you are focusing on the time frame instead of the actual message.

which would indicate to me you know you are wrong and just deflecting now.

AIB vs Reference you Accept it you are allowing your personal bias to blind you from that fact.

Your argument is weak and you are not honest enough to continue this discussion move on.
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#54
doc7000
ZunexxxSo, they went from GCN to RDNA because they couldn’t do “best of both worlds” and had to optimize the arch separately, and now they are going back again????
I have heard that the issue with AMD splitting RDNA and CDNA is that it split their workforce too much (AMD still isn't nearly as big as Nvidia or Intel) so bringing both teams together may actually help with resource allocation at AMD.
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#55
las
MakaveliI like how you are focusing on the time frame instead of the actual message.

which would indicate to me you know you are wrong and just deflecting now.

AIB vs Reference you Accept it you are allowing your personal bias to blind you from that fact.

Your argument is weak and you are not honest enough to continue this discussion move on.
There is no message only a fanboy denying facts.

It is not a coincidence that 99% of professional / competitive gamers use Nvidia and not AMD. Many use AMD CPU but close to none use AMD GPU.
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#56
Bouleou
Can it be that the rendering pipeline in RDNA is replaced with compute shaders and thus the multiprocessing architecture can be unified.
Maybe the mistake was not to realise that this was possible earlier than they thought.
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