Friday, October 11th 2024

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D "Zen 5" Spied in Cinebench, Boosts up to 5.20 GHz All-core

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D is rumored to launch sooner than expected, with the company targeting at least an announcement within October, with reviews and product availability within Q4 2024. The chip combines the latest "Zen 5" microarchitecture with 3D V-cache technology, and is expected to increase AMD's gaming performance outlook compared to the 7800X3D, which remains the fastest processor for gaming. An alleged screenshot of the processor grinding away at Cinebench surfaced, which reveals that the processor is capable of a 5.20 GHz all-core boost frequency, and comes with an impressive 4.70 GHz base frequency.

To put these clock speeds into perspective, the current Ryzen 7 9700X processor without the 3D V-cache, comes with a 3.80 GHz base and 5.50 GHz maximum boost frequency. This would be the first time that an X3D SKU is coming with a higher base frequency than a regular SKU. For example, the 7800X3D comes with a 4.20 GHz base frequency compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 7700X. Interestingly, the 5.20 GHz all-core boost frequency of the 9800X3D is on par with the all-core boost of the 9700X, which only hits 5.50 GHz boost on lightly threaded workloads. It remains to be seen what TDP and package power tracking (PPT) values AMD gives the 9800X3D, given that it had to retrofit the SKU with a 105 W cTDP mode via firmware, to eke out an up to 10% performance gain over the original specs.
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33 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D "Zen 5" Spied in Cinebench, Boosts up to 5.20 GHz All-core

#26
watzupken
After the recent 2 fiasco of AMD over-promising and under-delivering, e.g. RDNA3 and Zen 5, I rather wait for independent testing to conclude on the performance uplift. I do expect improvements, but the question is how much.
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#27
BoggledBeagle


Well if these percentages are not entirely random, but they represent typical gains, we are looking at another 5% performance boost over previous generation.
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#28
Vayra86
Lot of wishful thinking in this topic IMHO. X3D's have already banked the additional cache bonus, it ain't happening twice, its the same type of cache.

They're gonna get a clock bump so that'll be that. Hopefully at similar power figures, but I wouldn't hold your breath on that either. Frequency costs power. Also, Cinebench isn't really representative of any kind of productive or typical system load, and definitely not for gaming.

The best case gaming scenario (FC6) for this comparison is showing 13%, clearly derived almost exclusively from better clocks. Not much secrecy left here in Zen 5, to me.
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#30
phanbuey
SL2Just a silly thought.. could it be possible that the 9700X benefits more from having more cache/is more cache starved/is held back more by the current IOD than a 7700X due to the Zen5 architecture, and that we'll see higher performance gains in Zen5 models when V-cache is added, maybe even outside games now that the Hz difference is smaller?

This is not an attempt to go looking for yet another magic potion to fix Zen5, I'm just wondering if we really know everything about Zen5 at this point, given all the changes (mostly server focused.. seemingly) that has been made. Nooo, that's not the same thing. :D
I'm actually hoping for this too.
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#31
SL2
Vayra863D's have already banked the additional cache bonus, it ain't happening twice, its the same type of cache.
We don't know if V-cache gives a bigger bump for Zen5 than for Zen4. Yeah it's probably the same cache, but like I said, different cores.
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#32
RaceT3ch
i wonder if pbo could get the cpu up to 5.3-5.4
do x3d's have auto oc available to am5 x3d?
or is it only 5.25 ghz since they only go 50mhz over their advertised speed
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#33
ratirt
SL2None of us have seen a review, let alone used it, so it doesn't matter right now. Worrying won't help either, since you'll be able to read decent reviews before you can buy it.

The reason I focused on temp and not W is that the former was more of a subject the last time.
The reason I worry is the shift in direction and crippled innovation for sales. It is not about buying it and seeing reviews at this point.
I will watch reviews but these wont change my stand regarding the subject.
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