Monday, October 21st 2024
AMD Announces Ryzen 7 9800X3D, and Price-cuts Across Ryzen 9000 Series
AMD today lifted the covers off its Ryzen 7 9800X3D Socket AM5 processor powered by the "Zen 5" microarchitecture and 3D V-cache technology. The company did not put out any product specs or other details, except announcing November 7, 2024, as the product availability date for this chip. This would put its launch exactly two weeks from that of Intel's Core Ultra Series 2 "Arrow Lake-S" processors, and give reviewers time to include the performance results of the new Intel chips in reviews of the 9800X3D. AMD is looking to extend its gaming performance leadership which it held with the 7800X3D. The switch to the newer "Zen 5" microarchitecture and higher clock speeds could push gaming performance up beyond the 7800X3D by a few percentage points. The 7800X3D is already faster than the Core i9-14900K in gaming workloads, so we're being set up for an exciting clash between the Core Ultra 9 285K and the Ryzen 7 9800X3D for gaming performance.
Next up, AMD announced official price cuts for all four current models in its Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" desktop processor family. Buyers in the retail channel should be able to find the flagship Ryzen 9 9950X 16-core/32-thread processor up to $50 cheaper than its launch price, which should bring it down to $600. The Ryzen 9 9900X (12-core/24-thread), the Ryzen 7 9700X (8-core/16-thread), and the Ryzen 5 9600X (6-core/12-thread), each get a haircut of up to $30. You should be able to find the 9900X for as little as $470. The 9700X should be down to as low as $330. The 9600X, the most affordable "Zen 5" part, should go for as low as $250. The price-cuts should be effective immediately. Although all pre-launch info points to this being an 9800X3D-only launch, our AMD PR contacts used the plural term ("X3D processors") when referring to the November 7 date. Could we see more than one X3D processor model launch, especially given the $50 price cut given to the 9950X? Watch this space.
Next up, AMD announced official price cuts for all four current models in its Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" desktop processor family. Buyers in the retail channel should be able to find the flagship Ryzen 9 9950X 16-core/32-thread processor up to $50 cheaper than its launch price, which should bring it down to $600. The Ryzen 9 9900X (12-core/24-thread), the Ryzen 7 9700X (8-core/16-thread), and the Ryzen 5 9600X (6-core/12-thread), each get a haircut of up to $30. You should be able to find the 9900X for as little as $470. The 9700X should be down to as low as $330. The 9600X, the most affordable "Zen 5" part, should go for as low as $250. The price-cuts should be effective immediately. Although all pre-launch info points to this being an 9800X3D-only launch, our AMD PR contacts used the plural term ("X3D processors") when referring to the November 7 date. Could we see more than one X3D processor model launch, especially given the $50 price cut given to the 9950X? Watch this space.
77 Comments on AMD Announces Ryzen 7 9800X3D, and Price-cuts Across Ryzen 9000 Series
The option to have non X3D CPUs for people who already get enough gaming performance should be there. I sold my 7950X3D for a 9950X simply because games were not bottlenecked at 1440p wide but I got extra productivity performance. I lost all of 0% performance in games but gained significantly more in productivity.
Zen 5 isn't slow in gaming by any stretch, it's just that the X3D's are stupid fast and useful for 1) competitive gaming at relatively low resolutions with a flagship GPU + super fast monitor 2) Gamers primarily playing certain simulation games such as factorio etc 3) People who are planning to keep their CPU's for a couple of GPU generations.
Even if magically they lose 0% clockspeed when going X3D, it'll still cost more. So even in that case just reduce non-X3D prices and i'll take it.
Also, the X3D reimagined sounds interesting. Adding L2 doesn't make sense as it'll pretty much require a whole redesign of the floorplan, and dual X3D's are a lot of money for very little gain. If you see Zen5's floorplan, it doesn't really seem to have much space on the L3 area to include another 64MB on top because they considerably shrunk the L3 in Zen 5 in places where the TSV's are. So I'll add to others predictions and say it'll include two stacks of 48MB L3 for a total of 96MB.
Also Zen 5 is more than fast enough, the prices just need to come down more. IIRC the memory training really isn't a problem anymore, also X670 is still an option and IMO is the better choice unless someone needs USB4.
I'd like to see more MATX boards but unfortunately board makers want to market having a bunch of M.2 slots while most people will only use 1 or 2 of them.
I turn on my mainboard, monitor and speakers with just a single switch from the wall socket.
The POST time and warm boot time is finally fixed on my ASUS X670 mainboard. It's sometimes faster as time the ASUS Proart Monitor needs for the bootup logo. I use very slow 6000 MT/s 2x32GiB DRAM Modules with slightly tuned timings.
I use the F8 key to open the mainbaord bootloader to load e.g. Windows 11. That is usually possible around 5 seconds after I used the single wall switch to power on my hole computer setup.
Even after an UEFI Update recently, CMOS Reset and applied settings from the USB stick the mainboard instantly booted.
I foresee the 9000 series just replacing the 7000 series and prices coming down to what the current 7000 series are now once 7000 stocks are depleted which is what AMD tend to do when introducing a new gen CPU, they generally remain higher than the previous gen. Same as with DDR4-DDR5, 32GB of DDR4 can be had for £50-£60 compare that to to £80-100 for DDR5 and is the difference worth it in terms of performance uplift? no.
Priority for cache goes to EYPC first.
And they learned that the additional cache would favor games in particular, or actually, HUGE benefit in games. It needs half of the power to beat intel at the same game.
The AMD Epyc lineup had some chips where additional cache was needed for some big clients - so its logical they would address these chips for consumers.
Nothing gets lost, but calling this just a cashgrab? They are a huge addition.
Choices, choices. Buuuut at least I can keep my current boards :D
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