ryboto,AMD is not intel.They do things differently.So you will have to wait for benches some 1.5moths more :).And anyhow,why do you care about how it performs,since you think it will be worse than Conroe based Xeons??If you like intel more,nothing bad with that.But bashing AMD for doing their business the way they do is.It's their company,they do what they think is best for them.And i for once agree with their strategy for K10 introduction.The chip is PITA to produce and they are doing their best to make it happen.And the chip is very fast,no doubt about that(Alpha version of the chip was around 10% faster than C2Q(uad) clock for clock,early alpha to be more precise!).So if alpha (which was full of bugs and with disabled parts of the chip) was 10% better ,what you think retail will do to Clowerton and Penry?Sourse for this is a XIP at XtremeSystems named s7even(who had a look at the chip in early february of this year)

Well for a guy who didn't know K10 even had L3 :D ,you are not bad :D.Still you have a lot of catching up to do :D ;)

Cheers

informalWell for a guy who didn't know K10 even had L3 :D ,you are not bad :D.Still you have a lot of catching up to do :D ;)

Cheers

yeah, Its been a while since I looked at the stuff. I don't remember many of the changes.

I imagine once school starts back up, I'll go full bore again. :cool:

informalryboto,AMD is not intel.They do things differently.So you will have to wait for benches some 1.5moths more :).And anyhow,why do you care about how it performs,since you think it will be worse than Conroe based Xeons??If you like intel more,nothing bad with that.But bashing AMD for doing their business the way they do is.It's their company,they do what they think is best for them.And i for once agree with their strategy for K10 introduction.The chip is PITA to produce and they are doing their best to make it happen.And the chip is very fast,no doubt about that(Alpha version of the chip was around 10% faster than C2Q(uad) clock for clock,early alpha to be more precise!).So if alpha (which was full of bugs and with disabled parts of the chip) was 10% better ,what you think retail will do to Clowerton and Penry?Sourse for this is a XIP at XtremeSystems named s7even(who had a look at the chip in early february of this year)

I never bashed AMD. I defend them if anything. I'm not sure where you picked up that I was being negative towards them. I was just trying to defend myself against users here, well, not really defend, more like trying to clear some things up.

Oh sorry i misread something than :(.Anyway ,little more to go till benches appear.Let's hope it makes a debut in July.

Rawr!

I thought I read somewhere that the mem controller on these can only do up to DDR2-667, albeit w/ ECC. Any truth to that?

Wile EI thought I read somewhere that the mem controller on these can only do up to DDR2-667, albeit w/ ECC. Any truth to that?

We'll actually see an improvement with DDR2(with this revision), but mem controller limitation at 667? I doubt it. Possibly an old revision, but its been forever since they've made any samples available to even look at, letalone test.

Limitation of 667MHz Registered Ram comes only with Barcelona(Server part).
Desktop parts will fully support & utilize 1066Mhz(and bellow) DDR2 memory.