Buh, I so detest corporate downsizing. Perhaps if they made great systems that didnt cost an arm and a leg (Im talking about their higher speed systems) they wouldnt have to do this. Im sorry, Im not a fan of anyone losing their job, no matter what country.

It sucks that they have to cut jobs, but it's not like they're doing it just to be dicks. BTW, high end PCs cost an arm and a leg to make, and they still sell almost all of their computers for a lot less than most other companies - namely, Apple. And don't forget, Dell, like most other companies, is not a non-profit organization. In a business, the primary goal is to make money. They just gotta do what they gotta do to fulfill this goal.

Oh yea, and don't forget now many new jobs they're creating by opening retail stores.

wtf? why would they quit? then thel lose all they're bennies. should they be layed off/ fired, they'd still get they're pensions and severence pay.

@war - just imagine it this way... that the *new* downsized DELL is actually the RIGHT SIZE, and for the last few years the *extra* employees are just a bingo-bonus that have taken some lucky people off the unemployment list.

@yogurt - it does make sense. "Asking" people to leave doesnt mean without any incentive; they will probably be offering a large exit package... The concept it to invite people that are *happy* to go, or *know* their next performance review isn't going to be that good, to move early. People change their jobs all the time. Why fire a random person, if a specific person wanted to leave anyway because they were going to move house, take another job somewhere else, have kids, etc. Makes perfect sense to ask people "is there anyone here that is likely to leave their job in the next 18 months, because if you put your hand up now, we'll give you a nice little bonus to leave early and you can take a holiday" etc.

yep thats what Moirs chocolate factory is doing here.. thier laying off like 5,000 people but with a great exit package, the people are ok with it but not so much the community :P guess its cheaper to make chocolates in Mexico.

Its going to cost alot for all that unemployment insurance till theses 5,000 people find jobs.. if they find jobs like all you need to work thier was your grade 12 and Moirs paid very well compared to your avg joe job.


But back on topic xP. hopefully theses people will be able to line something up after thier incentive package without having to MOVE!

Benpiand they still sell almost all of their computers for a lot less than most other companies - namely, Apple.

Wrong. I've proven on numerous occasions that it costs almost as much to build a PC yourself, with the same exact specs and features as a Mac. Apples being uber expensive is a common misconception. They just don't build many low-end computers, so they start at a higher price.

I'm not talking about building your own PC. It is cheaper to build your own system. You're saving money on building it yourself. But the average 17 year old girl wouldn't know where to begin when it comes to putting a PC together. Also, it isn't easy to build lap-tops. Dell often offers free shipping and huge discounts on their laptops.

BenpiI'm not talking about building your own PC. It is cheaper to build your own system. You're saving money on building it yourself. But the average 17 year old girl wouldn't know where to begin when it comes to putting a PC together. Also, it isn't easy to build lap-tops. Dell often offers free shipping and huge discounts on their laptops.

When you count software, and capabilities, it was less than $100 difference between buying a MacPro, and building a PC just like it. And buy just like it, I mean components with the same level of build quality as the Mac. None of this throwing high-end hardware in a $20 case. Not too bad for a prebuilt, that also happens to currently have the most OS options.

And how can you count discounts? Compare Mac laptops to Dell's normal prices, and they're very similar in price. If counting discounts were a straight comparison, I could count the 15% student discount we got on our iMac, in this discussion.