i agree with that too, i was merely pointing out the reason the term 'true' quad is (over)used

Gringsi agree with that too, i was merely pointing out the reason the term 'true' quad is (over)used

me to which is why I use quotes around the term "true quad" in my posts.

mdm-adphYou know -- our Xeon-powered friend has a point. All quad-core chips should be called "quad-core," however they're made.

Though... you've got to agree that compared to the Barcelona's architecture, the quad-core Xeons seem like a quick hack.

(...kinda like the "4x4" stuff from AMD. I know.)

They are the quick solution yes, calling it a hack is just a flame. The quick solution got Intel ahead of AMD by 6 months. And still, AMD's solution isn't outperforming Intels, so why care about how they put them together?

freaksaviori care because the pentium D series compared to the c2d series was nothing. the C2D chips pwned the P4 D chips, and i expect it to be the same. The 'true' quads will pwn the dual die quads.

if there not true quads, then i doubt i'll upgrade to a quad core proc untill the true quads are out. i may just upgrade to the e8500/new mobo/new gpu/

It wasn't because of the true part that made it so much better. Core 2 is a direct descendant of pentium 3. It went through the pentium m line to core duo and now core 2 duo. It's architecture is radically different from netburst, so even if you made a "true" dual core out of netburst, it'd still suck next to a core 2 duo.

I don't know if intel's next chips will even be 'true' quad cores by your definition. Their next set is supposed to be 8 core.

ok, ok so from what i'm understanding is, just bite the bullet and buy a quad then

DanTheBanjomanAnd still, AMD's solution isn't outperforming Intels, so why care about how they put them together?

We all know this but also llok at the wattages of the quad core penryns and the dual core penryns.

The quadcore penryns don't quite have double the wattages as the first quad cores that intel released seemed to have. i.e. I am inclined to think that these may be 4 cores on 1 die though it really doesnt matter.

Im just going to be happy when quad cores (even low end quads) finally break below the $200 mark at retail prices:cool::cool::cool: