Makes you wonder how long before the standard hard drive is obsolete.

how much do you think that thing will cost?

my system is running on 39 gigs of hard drive space... and this is a 32gig flash drive. wouldn't this be basically a portable ssd drive. would be a great idea to install an os on it and take the os anywhere.

mab1376how much do you think that thing will cost?

www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=203137796&SearchEngine=DealTime&SearchTerm=203137796&Type=PE&Category=Elec&Gad=0&dcaid=17864
follow the link 87.18 @ buy.com

oh my bad, thats for the 2gb version it looks to be

Yeah, the 16GB is going for $134 over at Newegg.

AsphyxiAoh my bad, thats for the 2gb version it looks to be

That's also an SD card...not a USB flash drive.

Wow, sometimes I really wonder about you all.

i wounder which is faster 32g raptor or this

the drive, because its flash, it doesn't use the spinning spindle and stuff you know. the new ssd's or whatever drives are coming out using flash memory to store data, similair to this drive. so its basically a tiny portable flash hard drive.

panchomanthe drive, because its flash, it doesn't use the spinning spindle and stuff you know. the new ssd's or whatever drives are coming out using flash memory to store data, similair to this drive. so its basically a tiny portable flash hard drive.

Different types of flash memory tho.
Just because you have a large USB drive doesnt mean its faster than your hard drive.

Last time I checked, USB had like a theoretical maximum transfer speed of like 100mb/sec, not exactly ideal...

i was thinking of this a while back... with cpu's and memory the way they are today a lot of the time all you weaiting for is the HDD to deliver the info...

I have looked at those solutions where u can use ram as an HDD's (forgotten the name) ... but that still gets whipped by a decent raid 0 setup...

well one things for certain... they cant engineer a spinning HDD any better than it already is... so the only next logical step is solid state and perhaps a new type of bus thats fast enough to support it and deliver it where it needs to be without slowing down other components

twicksistedwell one things for certain... they cant engineer a spinning HDD any better than it already is... so the only next logical step is solid state and perhaps a new type of bus thats fast enough to support it and deliver it where it needs to be without slowing down other components

Of course they can.
They are improving drives as we speak by implementing technologies along the lines of perpendicular recording etc, all involved in getting more data density on hard drive platters. Though of course, one day solid state will become the norm, at the moment it isnt a very lucrative technology. It is currently alot more expensive per gigabyte, and the speeds dont thrash our existing drives.

The current advantages of SSD is low latency, quiet and cool nature of the drives (low power drain).

Disadvanges - Slower streaming of data, electromagnetic vulnerability, succeptibility to corruption from sudden power loss, lots more expensive per gig and data recoverability (once its deleted/corrupted/lost its gone forever).

Thats the current situation as to why they arnt mainstream. Though the future looks bright :)

ex_revenimplementing technologies along the lines of perpendicular recording etc

you mean like a raid 0 setup inside one drive?

so it takes up 1 space but doubles the speed internally... mmmm thats a thought..

still a drive can only spin so fast.. and it does slow a pc down...

twicksistedI have looked at those solutions where u can use ram as an HDD's (forgotten the name) ... but that still gets whipped by a decent raid 0 setup...

That would have to be one heck of a RAID-0 array :)

jack.abyssmal.com/photo/RRamdisk_IOMeter-001.png

lol ok well im not sure what solid state drive you had a bench for in that test but i was looking at the gigabyte ram disk a couple of months back... a box with DDR2 in that has a battery (think it was iRam or something)..

havent really kept up to date with that side of tech lately hehe

so many side to watch hehe!
(been focussing on GFX and CPU's in my spare time mainly)

JizzlerThat would have to be one heck of a RAID-0 array :)

jack.abyssmal.com/photo/RRamdisk_IOMeter-001.png

Hard drives 'write' data differently to how SSD's do.
Read this www.storagesearch.com/easyco-flashperformance-art.pdf

ok well that looks like a read for tomorrow... hehe
got through the first two paragraphs and it lost my tired concentration span :D
(of which even awake and refreshed is that of a small single celled organism)

for now im down 8 beers, half awake and busting for the loo... hope i make it down the stairs! ;)

twicksistedok well that looks like a read for tomorrow... hehe
got through the first two paragraphs and it lost my tired concentration span :D
(of which even awake and refreshed is that of a small single celled organism)

for now im down 8 beers, half awake and busting for the loo... hope i make it down the stairs! ;)

Ill summarise. Basically it goes on to talk about how SSD's write data to blocks that are often 1-4MB in size. In writing/replacing data, the SSD cant modify the data. It must first ERASE and then REWRITE the data to the SSD. That at least was my understanding of the article.
It sort of makes sense though. That would prove why SSD is faster at reading than HDDs, though it is slower than writing data. SO I guess its sort of a balancing act between the two.

Maybe thats why I heard somewhere that they were planning on making hybrid drives, a mix of SSD and regular Hard drives...

hmmm...

well what i was wondering is why... (since they already make drive with multiple platters/disks) they dont make a half sized drive... where lets say out of 4 platters you get 2/2 acting as raid 0

that would double the speed as in raid.... and youd have it on the drive itself meaning that it dosent get affected by the controller maximum speed.

ex_revenHard drives 'write' data differently to how SSD's do.
Read this www.storagesearch.com/easyco-flashperformance-art.pdf

And? It's an article about flash-based SSDs.

That is one of the snazziest looking thumb drives Ive seen. Rugged, sturdy, batter backup and lifetime warranty. All I need now is a price.

twicksistedhmmm...

well what i was wondering is why... (since they already make drive with multiple platters/disks) they dont make a half sized drive... where lets say out of 4 platters you get 2/2 acting as raid 0

that would double the speed as in raid.... and youd have it on the drive itself meaning that it dosent get affected by the controller maximum speed.

The drive would be slower if you reduced the size of the drive.
The circumference of the disk would be smaller. And therefore the outside edge of the disk would be moving slower.

forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=34311&page=2
Read from post 27 onwards.

JizzlerAnd? It's an article about flash-based SSDs.

Whats your point? Its still limited to the bandwidth of the USB port anyway.

ex_revenWhats your point? Its still limited to the bandwidth of the USB port anyway.

We were talking about RAM-based SSDs so the article really didn't apply :)

JizzlerWe were talking about RAM-based SSDs so the article really didn't apply :)

I only mentioned RAM SSD because panchoman accidently mistook the USB drive for the same thing. Then twistedsisted mentioned how a decent RAID beat SSDs and you disagreed and showed a benchmark so I posted the article about the write problems experienced with SSDs that show that your benchmark an innaccurate way of comparing SSD to HDD especially since a ram based SSD requires a hard drive to operate anyway, so I dont think its entirely suitable to the discussion.

The reason I posted info on flash based SSD is because we are talking about a USB device, not one located on the PCI bus.

too lazy to read everything, what'd i mistake lol.
i was saying that you can basically use this a flash hard drive and install and os and all on it, and so that way it'd act like a portable ssd drive. ssd is what they call the flash hard drives right?