I think they are crying to their mommy that they didn't get what they wanted for Christmas. LMAO, reading that and its clear that this is just a lash out at AMD because they didn't get their product "on time". It was like reading a letter of complaint. so boring.

I have read reviews on harddrives where users were complaining about only 137Gb being available. Obviously some know nothing, but being a expert is as easy as knowing how to run a screwdriver to them.


Moral of the story. Always wear your bullshit filter glasses.

Like anything else, reviews (esp. newegg's) are only good when multitudinous. Then you can sift out the garbage and look for real consistencies.

I'm glad someone came out and said it. AMD is obviously being run by monkeys at the moment. It's obvious frome thier products as of late that they are being run into the ground.

erockerI'm glad someone came out and said it. AMD is obviously being run by monkeys at the moment. It's obvious frome thier products as of late that they are being run into the ground.

with this in mind...

Ive heard rumours where before the AM2 platform was due to be released. that AMD knew about Intels Core 2 Duo but still didnt do anything about it. I think if they delayed the AM2 & refined it a little more then who knows, they could have done better as well as standing a better chance toe'ing the line Macho Vs. Macho with Intel.

& since AMD are struggling to keep up & Intel just keeps the good stuff rolling out. its hard to see/understand where AMD get their motivation from. & techreport didnt improve AMDs moral/tarnished reputation whatsoever which leaves us consumers at a crossroad inevitably wondering/thinking if AMD will ever be able to regain their once huge chunk of the market without having to resort to selling their souls & by souls i mean their assets. but theyve already taken the first step to doing that & if they keep going the way they are then they will either go into administration or they will put themselves up for sale & risk losing the AMD/ATi name(s) alltogether.

Since ATi were a pretty independant company before I dont see why they cant sell ATi or seperate the 2 companies & have ATi run as standalone so that it doesnt get dragged under with AMD. because the reality is that they cant keep releasing second rate goods without making a loss as Intel also has the budget market coverd with its low prices

so the saying goes... "theres a huge fire but only 1 small fire extinguisher. what are you gonna do...?"

Very interesting points FreedomEclipse. I would think two wholly independent companies working in unison would have been better.

Speaking of newegg.com reviews, most know what they are talking about and usually have the product. I sift through all the kick ass ones and then the ones that also say that had problems. Im checking out their DLink N wireless routers at the moment. Conflicting to say the least.


Nice to know I got some friends who rely on the same three as me. To them I give a ^5!!!

Yawn. I got bored after paragraph 3. AMD do need to learn to advertise hardcore though, thats what kept sales of the P4 up for Intel.

Very interesting points FreedomEclipse. I would think two wholly independent companies working in unison would have been better.

Speaking of newegg.com reviews, most know what they are talking about and usually have the product. I sift through all the kick ass ones and then the ones that also say that had problems. Im checking out their DLink N wireless routers at the moment. Conflicting to say the least.


Nice to know I got some friends who rely on the same three as me. To them I give a ^5!!!

I don't really rely on newegg that much anymore, or at least I take the info with a grain of salt. MaximumPC, though, give really good, unbiased views, IMO - as short as their hardware reviews tend to be, they still tell you what is going to matter most to you. As far as trade publications go, I hold them in high regard, too. They're an awesome source of info (and cynical humor, too).

BTW, on D-link hardware, I've never had any issues what-so-ever. All 3 of our computers here at home use D-link equipment, and everything is a charm . . . sometimes I can even pick up our neighbors network :D - and they use Linksys!

KetxxxYawn. I got bored after paragraph 3. AMD do need to learn to advertise hardcore though, thats what kept sales of the P4 up for Intel.

I notice that where i live the only advertisement i've seen from AMD was at the airport by the bathrooms.:laugh:
They could definitely use the publicity. would help them be more recognized.

i must be lucky i have a 3870 sat in a new msi 790X amd chipset board..

poor product.. well i would say at least a poorly prepared product.. the card comes with XP drivers that wont install in a proper way.. and wait for it.. so does the motherboard..

i have the thing running but it was major headache..

now its running what do i think... not a lot to be honest.. the very "entry level" abit 520 nvidia chipset board it replaced runs faster.. also i cant run the memory at the same timings as i could on the 520 board and overall have lost 10% of my memory bandwidth..

the amd overdrive thing that sounds so usefull crashes the system the moment i try and run it.. i had to uninstall it..

and two of the four sata sockets are covered up by the end of the dual slot 3870 card.. so only two sata slots are usable..

okay its a crossover board.. they have had to shoehorn pci and ide sockets on it.. but its really a one ide and two sata board..

i can live with the loss of memory bandwidth cos in real life it dosnt make a deal of difference but if this is what amd have to offer in the future they aint long to live..

trog

Solaris17or he's jealous cause he didnt get a phenom

I woudlnt be losing any sleep over it thats for sure.

trog100i must be lucky i have a 3870 sat in a new msi 790X amd chipset board..

poor product.. well i would say at least a poorly prepared product.. the card comes with XP drivers that wont install in a proper way.. and wait for it.. so does the motherboard..

i have the thing running but it was major headache..

now its running what do i think... not a lot to be honest.. the very "entry level" abit 520 nvidia chipset board it replaced runs faster.. also i cant run the memory at the same timings as i could on the 520 board and overall have lost 10% of my memory bandwidth..

the amd overdrive thing that sounds so usefull crashes the system the moment i try and run it.. i had to uninstall it..

and two of the four sata sockets are covered up by the end of the dual slot 3870 card.. so only two sata slots are usable..

okay its a crossover board.. they have had to shoehorn pci and ide sockets on it.. but its really a one ide and two sata board..

i can live with the loss of memory bandwidth cos in real life it dosnt make a deal of difference but if this is what amd have to offer in the future they aint long to live..

trog

All the sudden my X850XT and A64 4800 @ 2.8GHz is looking awful good... :p.

Perhaps AMD should look at Harley Davidson's approach to marketing slower, heavier, hotter running products; sell a lifestyle instead of performance/price.

Leather AMD jackets, $2000 cpu's, jeans, boots, coffee mugs.. they already litigate like Harley... just take the next step. Green and black instead of orange and black... I think I'll give em a call....

Don't get me wrong, my last 3 builds are amd, just sad to see em slide so far technically and the bad pr decisions. Their faithful can only take so much from the Intel fanbois. This K10 looks like a Prescotynom. Pity it would have fared ok a year ago but this late it's gonna get clobbered by the Penryns. Techreport gets whiney but his premise is sound.

Well I would have to agree with Tech Reports flame. I get sick and tired of waiting for AMD to release new hardware. Paper, press, paper and more press and yesterdays harware gets a bit sickening. I have used AMD products for along time for 98% of my systems. The release of the Phenoms was disappointing but the 790FX (unfortunately paired with the SB600) looks good but this still doesn't excuse releasing a sub par CPU, IMHO.
So for someone to rant about AMD and their poor Marketing/ Benching practices, well I wish more would do the same. With more Review Sites expressing their dissatisfaction openly and to the point just might wake up the sons of b***hes. AMD needs to respond with comparative hardware on the market today. I like their new video cards but they still are lagging quite a bit, they need to release hardware that will compete with the big boys to stay even or pull ahead. Enthusiast love power, raw power….and paper and press is getting very boring and repetitious. AMD…. wake up, its roll call and your late showing up AGAIN.