Woot! I hope the Dual Core GPU does come out that soon. Will just have to wait and see.

The RV620 die shrink should be really good for AMD. Isn't the 2400 series dominating Nvidia's GeForce 8400/8500 in the OEM desktop space because of price/performance ratio and better UVD acceleration? With this die shrink, it will be probable that this will allow them to raise the clocks a little bit and be cheaper, or maybe even move to passive cooling on all RV620 cards.

When do we get to see a powerful GPU in its true sense from ATi? C'mon, the RV680 is something like the two GPUs on the same board and not two GPU dies on the same chip? then it's not a "dual-core" GPU as such. It's just another dull remake of the 7950 GX2.

Deja Vu anyone?

Exactly 10 years ago, before 3DFX's demise, we got to see the company do the same things to compete with NVidia, like two/four chips on a board. Goes on to show, that ATI is finished, they can no more make a single-core single card that can outperform a NVidia card in a given segment.

btarunrWhen do we get to see a powerful GPU in its true sense from ATi? C'mon, the RV680 is something like the two GPUs on the same board and not two GPU dies on the same chip? then it's not a "dual-core" GPU as such. It's just another dull remake of the 7950 GX2.

Deja Vu anyone?

Exactly 10 years ago, before 3DFX's demise, we got to see the company do the same things to compete with NVidia, like two/four chips on a board. Goes on to show, that ATI is finished, they can no more make a single-core single card that can outperform a NVidia card in a given segment.

You must not understand why this is a good thing.
The card will be longer yes, but it will only use 1 PCI slot vs 2x HD 3870s in xfire using up 2 slots + not to mention the dual slot coolers. PCI 2.0 might actually be used to its fullest potential with this solution. So this is a step in the right direction, just as the CPU did a few years back when they introduced dual-core, now a different industry is adopting the same technique.

No, what I'm questioning is the incompetency that has crept into ATi. There were times when their GPU's made jaws drop. NVidia had to make a 7950 GX2 to beat the X1950 XTX, Remember the Radeon 9xxx series, they gave the entire GeForce FX a sound thrashing?

Look at them now. Where's that magical GPU we've been waiting for?

Not more than 1 month after the RV680's release, NVidia will slap in two 8800 GT cores onto a single board and make a "8800 GX2". Now, compare that to the RV680.

What ATI names the RV680 would be of great academic interest. If they called it HD 3880, then it shows that AMD is working on something else too. But if it calls it HD3890, it's a clear indication that ATI has totally given up competing with NVidia in the extreme-performance segment.

btarunrBut if it calls it HD3890, it's a clear indication that ATI has totally given up competing with NVidia in the extreme-performance segment.

Why? In the past there has been an x800 series and an x850 series. Even further, an x1900 and an x1950 series. So, if they made this the HD 3890, then they could then wip out the HD 39x0 series.

devguyWhy? In the past there has been an x800 series and an x850 series. Even further, an x1900 and an x1950 series. So, if they made this the HD 3890, then they could then wip out the HD 39x0 series.

I hope they do

well let's face it, this generation ATI doesn't have the performance crown, so-to-say. but that isn't to say its current product offerings totally suck.

in the other market segments, ATI's offerings I would say are pretty good (i.e.: HD3850).

I think if ATI can pull off the R680 (with good drivers too) it would be a step in the right direction befor the next-generation GPU is released. And, for ATI's sake, the stuff after R680 shouldn't be another X2900XT situation. :banghead:

But it is a wild-goose chase for sure. Instead of working on a powerful GPU, they're merely using two HD3870 cores on to a board a la 7950 GX2. Anyway NVidia will retaliate by using two 8800 GT cores onto a board, naming it a 8800 GX2. What's the point in being "the best" for one or two days? Instead if they made a powerful GPU, that'll stay on. That's what they did with the X1950 XTX, which remained as the most powerful DX9 GPU and the fastest single-chip video-card pre-DX10.