Friday, January 18th 2008
New Blu-ray 2.0 Spec Makes PS3 the Most Future-proof Player
With an unexpected announcement from Warner stating that the company would issue its movies on Blu-ray, the high-definition format war is over for many.
A new definition of Blu-ray is coming up, namely "Blu-ray 2.0". The 2.0 profile brings picture-in-picture and online functionality to Blu-ray discs; these movies will have "BD-Live" stickers on the case so you know certain features will require 2.0-compliant players.
Currently, the Playstation 3 is the only Blu-ray 2.0-compatible player available.
Below is a summary of the different requirements for the several Blu-ray standards:
Source:
Arstechnica
A new definition of Blu-ray is coming up, namely "Blu-ray 2.0". The 2.0 profile brings picture-in-picture and online functionality to Blu-ray discs; these movies will have "BD-Live" stickers on the case so you know certain features will require 2.0-compliant players.
Currently, the Playstation 3 is the only Blu-ray 2.0-compatible player available.
Below is a summary of the different requirements for the several Blu-ray standards:
- 1.0 is the launch profile, and secondary audio and video decoders are optional, as is local storage and network connectivity. The majority of standalone players fit into this category.
- 1.1 is the newer profile, and to take advantage of these discs, players need a secondary audio and video decoder to handle picture-in-picture, as well as at least 256MB of local storage for content.
- 2.0 is the profile of the future, requiring the two secondary decoders, 1GB of local storage for updates and content, and an Internet connection.
50 Comments on New Blu-ray 2.0 Spec Makes PS3 the Most Future-proof Player
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I know that the free market is based on competition, consumer choice, and profitability. This guise of subsidizing is bogus and extremely anti-competitive. In this format war, neither side should be doing it and the Movie producers should stay out of it. Let the consumer decide otherwise the costs will be passed on to us. By letting the consumer decide means lowering prices and coming out with better features than ring-tones on your TV.
I see no reason why there should be any BR fan boys as there is no real difference in movie quality and who cares about the extra space when all it is used for are trailers and silly games. Is it possible you're attempting to rationalize your $500 console purchase by saying to yourself, "See. I made the right choice"?
BTW this war isn't over and will probably never be over until someone figures out how to stream about 45Mb/s over the Internet to thousands of people or a better CODEC is created.
honestly blu ray is unessential and a waste of time when you can get a cheaper hd format that has the same quality for less price
well i guess that every single fanboy of blu ray will disagree but thats because fan boys are stubborn
i just buy in an economical and sane way
i think that when i buy i look for the best value for money so if your only losing out on a few features but the price is way cheaper that how i think also if its only a little more for the better version or more features then i buy that i dont just buy the dearest one i think those that dont buy like this are wasting money and resources that could be put to better use
its like hd dvd its cheaper but has the same quality right i have the ability to buy more movies if i save money on the player now if blu ray had better quality movies and was only a few more £ then it would be more economical to buy
there are such things as buying games for example i wouldnt pay for unreal tournament on my console because its half the price on PC right
i would buy an ati 3870 over a 3850 because its not that much more and is the powerfuller card!
The ps3 can use ANY bluetooth mic. The xbox 360 can only use MS headsets (and off brands) that have the proprietary ports.
The ps3 can use ANY 2.5" HD. The xbox 360 makes you use MS's HD.
The ps3 can use any linux distro. The xbox 360 won't.
The ps3 can use many many many stream formats, you can connect macs and PCs. Xbox won't do that.
Totally flawed arguement man, sorry to say.
Linux isnt worth it to 95% of the PS3 fanbase since they dont even use limux except for maybe a handful of them.
Now lets see about the Bluetooth. Last time I checked Bluetooth was way more expensive than traditional wireless ever was.
Now heres what Sony forces on its PS3 fanbase:
Blu ray
Six axis
Crappy servers on its online program for multiplayer
No more PS2 Backwards compatibility. (at least Microsoft is still working on getting as many xbox games to work on the 360 as possible.)
Why would I want to have to "hack" my harddrive?...(plus most likely void my warranty)
Those stats on Linux are made up out of thin air, did you conduct a research study?
Saying sixaxis is forced on the user is like saying the rumble on the 360 is forced on you. Dualshock3 is coming to PS3 in the spring. (Many games have the ability to turn Sixaxis on and off, and the rumble option will be able to be turned on and off also).
Micrsoft has had 2 consoles only. One of which they don't sell now. Sony has had 3 consoles, one which they don't sell anymore (PS1) and one that they do (PS2). One PS3 model offers backwards PS2 capablity (for extra money and it comes with a bigger HD) and one doesn't. Both models have PS1 compability with upscaling enabled and PS smoothing if you so choose. The fact is, you have the choice to get what you want with Sony. Sony is giving you so much choice here it's not even funny.
The blu-ray isn't forced on you because all of the games are in blu-ray format with single layer 25gb space.
THE PSN network is completely lag free on every game I play. Go try it sometime. And it's free! :rockout:
Let's talk about UT3. You have the choice to use the controller or a keyboard/mouse. You can even map all of your keys.'
Sony gives you so much choice it's not even funny.
Additionally I am a PS3 owner and I don't particularly support either HD format at the moment. I just get Blu-ray movies if I want them (planet earth for example) simply because I am not spending an extra 100 quid to get the HD-DVD add on for my 360.
More to the point why should I when my PS3 already has blu-ray built in?!WTF?! powerfuller?! I take it you mean the more powerful card?
Sony is forcing Blu-Ray on us? That is like saying Microsoft is forcing the DVD standard on us, or they all are forcing the CD standard on us. You aren't forced to buy Blu-Ray movies, giving people the option to do it isn't forcing it on them.
Six Axis isn't a forced option, I haven't played a game yet that forces you to use the Six Axis controls. Every game that has used it gives you the option to turn it off if you wish.
The PS3 still has PS2 compatibility, Sony now gives you the option to get a console with it, or not. How is that forcing anything on the consumer? Funny, when they include a feature(Blu-Ray) you say they are forcing it on us, and when they don't include a feature(PS2 compatibility) you say they are forcing that on us too, even when they give you the option to still have the feature. And isn't the 80GB PS3 compatible with more PS2 games than the Xbox360 is with Xbox games? I think so.
At least Sony isn't forcing Xbox-Live down their consumers throats.
honestly you can encode a 1080p movie down to 3-4gb without quility loss given proper settings, i have done it, its slow on current systems/cpu's but given proper hardware encoder support it could be done EASLY by companys and they could sell movies at lower cost because honestly dvd's(disks) and the readers(players) are cheaper to make, even with a hardware h264 decoder, hell they could use the via c7 1.5gz cpu to decode the video and audio and support any type of files needed and even allow updates to support newer codecs, and it would still be cheaper then hd-dvd or blu-ray is now.
if i had the $ i would design a player and convence a company to produce it, most expencive part of the new HD standreds is the player/reader not the decoders.
I thought this was a forum about Blu-Ray.
This forum was about BR 2.0. It is saying that previous consoles will have a problem. This is only the begining. Sony will try to use it to force everyone to buy a PS3 just to watch BR movies. I'll probably never buy a PS3. The games suck except for UT which I have on my desktop pc.
Yes! The PS3 games suck. Here's proof.
Like effmaster said, no PS2 game compatibility is proof of Sony's intentions. They want you ditch your PS2 and all of your PS2 games and buy a PS3 with all new games. Do you also see the parallel with no two sided Blu-Ray/DVD discs? (I know BR discs have a different process than DVD and HD-DVD but you should know that it could have been done.) Nothing wrong with that business model but it has never worked for Sony because it leaves the door open for the competition which historically has been their downfall. This must be the business strategy in Japan MBA schools. Why don't they just try to beat the competition by making a better product? It worked pretty well for them with the PS2.
BTW. You can connect the XBOX HD-DVD Rom to your PC which I think is very cool for $129.
I wish someone would bundle that up in a nice package. If Sony were smart, they would have saved a billion or two and the industry would have sold a few hundred million more HD movies to date with a premium.