infrared^ Find me an AMD "budget" processor that will match a Core 2 Duo e2160 (£44) @ 3.2ghz ??

Yes and really would I use a E2160 at 3.2ghz 24/7? No. Especially if I was a normal family member. In businesses AMDs look more desirable I have to admit-they don't cheap out on stuff like cooling, unlike Intel.

Sidenote: My E2160 can't even do 3.2Ghz.

Be more realistic, you would NEVER want to construct systems that are overclocked for businesses so your C2D's advantage is totally negated, and I don't think OEMs these days are going to pre-overclock a E2160 to sell-that's just ludicrous, their customers wouldn't have an idea. Maybe you do but that doesn't matter because we are a minority! The Core 2 Architecture doesn't really get moving around under 2.4Ghz, therefore stock performance AMD wins, in terms of price ratio.

Example 780G System, with Athlon 4850+ X2 Low power edition vs the Intel G35 + E2160 "Price counterpart".
The 780G runs far cooler, saps less energy, and the CPU runs cooler and quieter.

Why? Just think, Intel with their nearing-monopoly operations have just cheaped out with the cooling and possibly miscalibrated the temperature sensors deliberately (something people should Investigate on :shadedshh) that relay with the motherboard sensor/PWM, in order for their CPUs to run "cooler" to the user with inferior and cheap coolers, so the fans wouldn't spin up. Usually core temp or a thermo proves the opposite (as newtekie proved.... temps sky-rocketed). AMD? They either provide the large aluminium fin array (but i reckon they only provide those with Semprons these days), or the Aluminium + quad heatpipe fin array which rivals aftermarket solutions and runs extremely quietly and genuinely cools the already cool CPU well.

I'm no AMD fanboy but I'm starting to get sick of Intel cheaping out in underhanded ways to the average consumer. AMD provides honest and genuine products and notifies consumers of the issues associated with their products. I don't see Intel doing that at anytime. Their cost cutting could easily be a reason for their profits. I reckon this started with the release of the E4xxx series-where things started getting dodgy. Anyway I wouldn't really be happy with this because an announcement like this is detrimental to AMD's shareholders who may go into panic and sell off shares-not good.

:( how comes?

good news for the US economy. analysts always say that the tech industry gets hit first when an economy slows down. well this news makes it seem like we wont hit a recession.

well....intel's head just got bigger! good news for them bad for buyers...

And if roles were reversed Amd would be doing exactly the same as Intel.

TripriftAnd if roles were reversed Amd would be doing exactly the same as Intel.

i don't think we will ever find that out :laugh:

Thats confidence with a capital B :laugh:

that wasn't confident statement, that was just a thought that was meant to correct you previous response, so ... nothing personal ;)

Easy Rhinogood news for the US economy. analysts always say that the tech industry gets hit first when an economy slows down. well this news makes it seem like we wont hit a recession.

don't agree with you about recession;you're already in and it will be harder; FED need this to help the big ones behind to buyout all for cents...

did you know IRS has no legal back-up to exist and to take your money?

infrared^ Find me an AMD "budget" processor that will match a Core 2 Duo e2160 (£44) @ 3.2ghz ??

You speak of Ocing a Cpu?
Okay buy an x2 4600+ Windsor core. This one does normally 3,2ghz and then its on pair with your e2160.
Amd Boards cost less, cpus uses less power and in this term the 2x512kb l2 of the E2160 really brings this cpu behind.



When it comes to buisness amd currently gets the better price/value listing.

Yup, the company that gives me most for whatever I pay gets my cash. I don't enjoy doing it in the underdoggie position.

CStylenNice job Intel. Recession my a**!

One company doesn't denounce a recession. Just look at their stock from the past few months for much clearer picture. Just look at that drop starting in 2008!

laszlo: The US is not in a recession. Though a slim margin, our economy still continues to grow.

EastCoasthandle: You're right, one company does not denounce a recession, but it is good to see growth when the media tells you how bad it is all the time.