wolf2009hope its comes out as soon as possible, these reference coolers r crap. world needs to know wat palit coolers can do and i need to sell my current palit card and buy a new palit card.

Here, here... I want to have another Palit card myself! I didn't have my 8800gt 1gb card long! lol

wolf2009hope its comes out as soon as possible, these reference coolers r crap. world needs to know wat palit coolers can do and i need to sell my current palit card and buy a new palit card.

I wouldn't say their crap, AMD just sacrificed temperature for noise level. The coolers are capable of the cooling the card much better with a higher fan speed.

Urbklr911I wouldn't say their crap, AMD just sacrificed temperature for noise level. The coolers are capable of the cooling the card much better with a higher fan speed.

any place or anyone showing the temps at 35% or 100% fan spped .

for comparison my current palit card remains at 40 C with 35% fan speed at default, thats with all the cable clutter in the case .

wolf2009any place or anyone showing the temps at 35% or 100% fan spped .

for comparison my current palit card remains at 40 C with 35% fan speed at default, thats with all the cable clutter in the case .

Yes, I believe TPU shows them at that speed. That would not be a fair comparison anyway, you don't own a R770.

gotta wait til june 25th for shipping..grr. thats way too long. hopefully there will be at least a hand full of good overclocking cards out there.

Does anyone know if the HD 4850 or HD 4870 will support CrossFire with a HD 3870? CrossFireX is supposed to allow CrossFire between GPUs outside of the same family but that wasn't seen much according to the chart on AMD GAME. If they can CrossFire, then I am sold for one + a X48 motherboard. If not, I'll have to see how the 9800 GTX+ performs.

Cheers,
-robodude666

well if my CPU wasn't such a bottleneck id consider it, i think after i get my 3870 running good for me next step is CPU but can't decide to go x2 6000 or Core2, the 6000 is cheaper to go to of course for me as ECS gurantee's 125w support and so does the local shop that sold me this Nforce4 AM2 board

W1zzardgo watch some porn and come back in one hour

That's far too much time for him. ;)

@Candle - how are you finding the 3870, thought you only had eyes for nVIDIA?

isnt here yet

robodude666Does anyone know if the HD 4850 or HD 4870 will support CrossFire with a HD 3870? CrossFireX is supposed to allow CrossFire between GPUs outside of the same family but that wasn't seen much according to the chart on AMD GAME. If they can CrossFire, then I am sold for one + a X48 motherboard. If not, I'll have to see how the 9800 GTX+ performs.

Cheers,
-robodude666

Crossfire between family's is supported. You can run a 48xx alongside your 3870.

InnocentCriminal@Candle - how are you finding the 3870, thought you only had eyes for nVIDIA?

I was wondering the same. What made you get a 3870 after hating them so much?

my 7950GT can't keep up and 120 wasn't a bad deal for close to 9600gt power

That's exactly why people buy ATI products...everything is priced right, prices fall when market doesn't receive them well.

ah man im gob smacked over what these things can do for the price, im serisously thinking of gettin shot of my 3850 512MB for one of these things, i thought i'd be safe for at least a year but the price and almost double performance. holy god!

btarunrThat's exactly why people buy ATI products...everything is priced right, prices fall when market doesn't receive them well.

lol i got it on here, if i bought from the egg it would have been a 9600GT there priced the same

To be honest i am getting massively confused with all the names and such, i think it was about time both companies started a new naming scheme; someone on here (can't remember who) posted in what rank nVidia cards went and i took one look at it and passed out.

So what do these cards match in the nVidia camp? on price and performance? or is this a question that quite simply cannot be answered?

WhiteLotusTo be honest i am getting massively confused with all the names and such, i think it was about time both companies started a new naming scheme; someone on here (can't remember who) posted in what rank nVidia cards went and i took one look at it and passed out.

So what do these cards match in the nVidia camp? on price and performance? or is this a question that quite simply cannot be answered?

A company does not name its products to retaliate to a competing company. Everything becomes 'current generation' once it hits the market. The HD4000 is not a series of products out to compete with NVidia's offerings on a particular generation's basis but more of on a price domination. Currently there's no product from NVidia under $400 that can beat the $199 HD4850.

to relate your question

4850 compares to 9800GTX/Ultra in preformance

btarunrA company does not name its products to retaliate to a competing company. Everything becomes 'current generation' once it hits the market. The HD4000 is not a series of products out to compete with NVidia's offerings on a particular generation's basis but more of on a price domination. Currently there's no product from NVidia under $400 that can beat the $199 HD4850.

I'm excited to see what Nvidia is gonna put out to compete with the HD4870, it's gonna wreck at only $299:nutkick:

btarunrA company does not name its products to retaliate to a competing company. Everything becomes 'current generation' once it hits the market. The HD4000 is not a series of products out to compete with NVidia's offerings on a particular generation's basis but more of on a price domination. Currently there's no product from NVidia under $400 that can beat the $199 HD4850.

Overclocked 8800 GTS and 9800 GTX and by a substantial margin. HD4850 doesn't overclock as well as those too, so in the end they would be around the same performance, despite the Radeon being a bit faster and cheaper.

And to be fair, it's worth mentioning they are going to go down in price and get an incredible boost with 177.35.
Also 8800 GT is marginally slower and price is a lot lower, you can have two 9600GT/HD3870 for around the same price which performa lot better, etc...

DarkMatterOverclocked 8800 GTS and 9800 GTX and by a substantial margin. HD4850 doesn't overclock as well as those too, so in the end they would be around the same performance, despite the Radeon being a bit faster.

I'm not talking about what a board-partner has to offer, I'm talking about what NVidia has to offer. HD4850's OC is limited arguably by the fact that it shares the same core as a HD4870, and OC is supposed to be limited, add to that, the core runs hot and the reference cooler just about keeps it operational. When HIS jumps in with their blue-PCB and IceQ cooler, things will change (see, how I'm talking about what a board-parter has to offer, using your logic?). Remember how the initial BIOS of HD3850 restricted you from taking the core beyond ~730MHz ?

DarkMatterOverclocked 8800 GTS and 9800 GTX and by a substantial margin. HD4850 doesn't overclock as well as those too, so in the end they would be around the same performance, despite the Radeon being a bit faster.

I'm thinking it will overclock fairly well, 90+ degrees temperatures might be what is holding it back.

I've said this quite of a bit of late, but if ATi release a 4850 in AGP (highly doubtful) I won't know if I should laugh or cry.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I had the impression the guy was asking with the intent of buying a card soon. To that purpose my post is helpful, your's is missleading IMO at the least.

That doesn't look a bad overclock, does it? (On stock-cooling, considering the core reaches 100C sometimes)



taken from W1z's review. Wonder what it performs like at those speeds.