Tuesday, July 8th 2008

Eran Badit of NGOHQ now Part of NVIDIA Developer Program

Eran Badit of the NGOHQ ATI PhysX driver fame now joins the NVIDIA developer program. In a more assertive statement, he believes that NVIDIA wants to "take on Intel with CUDA and to deal with the 'latest' Havok threat from both AMD and Intel.".

In a conversation with TG Daily, Roy Taylor, vice president of developer relations for NVIDIA says: "Eran and I have been talking via email and we have invited him to join NVIDIA's registered developer program. We are delighted at his interest in CUDA and in GPU accelerated physics using PhysX. Eran joins a long line of developers who are now working on using the GPU to run physics and who are doing so with the world's leading physics software - PhysX. "

Derek Perez, in charge of Nvidia's PR department, joined Taylor with this statement:
"We'll help any and all developers are using CUDA. That includes tools…documentation…and hands on help. We're delighted with the interest in CUDA and PhysX; and that includes the news on www.ngohq.com."

Once feared by many for aggressively defending its intellectual property, NVIDIA seems to have changed its approach towards things. In a bid to popularize their technology, it is willing to give the 'PhysX advantage' to even its competitor, AMD. But it still remains to be seen if PhysX performs on Radeon "the way it's meant to perform", now with Eran Badit working in close collaboration with NVIDIA. He says he still awaits samples from AMD so he could devise PhysX drivers for them. Surely NVIDIA has brought in good days for small developers with big aspirations.
Source: TG Daily
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24 Comments on Eran Badit of NGOHQ now Part of NVIDIA Developer Program

#1
ShinyG
So, how is nVidia "willing to give the ‘PhysX advantage’ to even its competitor, AMD", by hiring the only guy that did the PhysX port?!
Also, Eran is naive to think that AMD will supply him with a card now that he works for nVidia.
This story is turning into a big "look at me, I'm not the evil corporation you all know I am" game.
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#2
EastCoasthandle
LOL, it's going to get very interesting (to say the least) when Nvidia redistributes ATI's drivers.
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#3
candle_86
this is actully looking very good for Nvidia and very bad for AMD. They refuse to send samples to get physx drivers for there cards, and the whole tech world is noticing this. AMD is stubburn always has been, they make new stuff, but never accept freebies even when they could do alot of good.
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#4
EastCoasthandle
candle_86this is actully looking very good for Nvidia and very bad for AMD. They refuse to send samples to get physx drivers for there cards, and the whole tech world is noticing this. AMD is stubburn always has been, they make new stuff, but never accept freebies even when they could do alot of good.
Oh really? I guess you missed this.
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#5
candle_86
did you also know futuremark approved the driver, your a fanboy honestly dude, futuremark has no issues with cuda or the drivers, get over it.

Also who runs ATI and Nvidia cards in the same system this will only affect those that swap cards around and IMO if you do that without a proper reinstall your a moron anyway
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#6
EastCoasthandle
candle_86did you also know futuremark approved the driver, your a fanboy honestly dude, futuremark has no issues with cuda or the drivers, get over it.

Also who runs ATI and Nvidia cards in the same system this will only affect those that swap cards around and IMO if you do that without a proper reinstall your a moron anyway
Actually, based on what was brought to light doesn't make that statement entirely true. The drivers are one thing, the vantage dlls are something else. Furthermore, name calling doesn't validate your point of view on the subject at hand.
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#7
candle_86
Vantage uses Ageia PhysX DLL's which guess what are property of Nvidia not Futuremark to begin with. And im not name calling im stating a fact, you find any reason to invalidate anything Nvidia does all over this forum, and its kinda hold and boring.
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#8
EastCoasthandle
candle_86Vantage uses Ageia PhysX DLL's which guess what are property of Nvidia not Futuremark to begin with. And im not name calling im stating a fact, you find any reason to invalidate anything Nvidia does all over this forum, and its kinda hold and boring.
At this time, information has surfaced from an insider stating that drivers are not the only thing being changed to get Physx working in Vantage. There is no information from Vantage (at this time) saying that their own dlls needed to be modified in order to do this. Therefore, it stand to reason:
-If this is true how does this affect ATI if they join with Nvidia on Physx development?
-Again if true, will Physx SDK as we know it need to be completely re-written if ATI/AMD joins? (making the development of those driver so far useless)
-Will ATI/AMD have to make their own Physx drivers?
-Does this mean that other games need to be modified in order to get Phsyx working properly?
-etc
It was to my understanding that this was only at the SDK level. This is why your responses to my post incites an argument. Instead of offering information about this subject you resort to name calling and make broad, false allegations which have nothing to do with the subject of this thread.
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#9
[I.R.A]_FBi
candle_86this is actully looking very good for Nvidia and very bad for AMD. They refuse to send samples to get physx drivers for there cards, and the whole tech world is noticing this. AMD is stubburn always has been, they make new stuff, but never accept freebies even when they could do alot of good.
I think ur biased (to nvidia).
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#10
chron
Good for him! seriously. I bet they're paying him pretty decent. Creative could learn a lesson or two here...
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#11
devguy
chronGood for him! seriously. I bet they're paying him pretty decent. Creative could learn a lesson or two here...
My thoughts exactly. :toast:
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#12
DaedalusHelios
ShinyGSo, how is nVidia "willing to give the ‘PhysX advantage’ to even its competitor, AMD", by hiring the only guy that did the PhysX port?!
Also, Eran is naive to think that AMD will supply him with a card now that he works for nVidia.
This story is turning into a big "look at me, I'm not the evil corporation you all know I am" game.
Calling Nvidia an evil corporation is silly. I know you hate them but come on. :laugh:

That just screams fanboy.:laugh:

Nvidia wants to take on Intel. Nothing wrong with that. AMD hasn't done a very good job with that lately, so Nvidia has stepped up to the plate.

Nvidia is still great with R&D, but they need to adjust their cost/price of products.

If Nvidia thinks they can defeat Intel in Processor production/replacement, they need to team up with IBM. So they have enough funds to even try it.

BTW Nvidia pushing PhysX is just like ATi pushing DX10.1, who actually uses that? The version they originally designed the cards to support actually doesn't even meet the specifications of the newest revision used by game developers in the latest SDK. That was news like 2 months ago.
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#13
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DaedalusHeliosIf Nvidia thinks they can defeat Intel in Processor production/replacement, they need to team up with IBM. So they have enough funds to even try it.
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wat happens then ? how good is IBM ?
#14
DaedalusHelios
wolf2009wat happens then ? how good is IBM ?
IBM has enough funds to buy Nvidia, AMD, and Intel all at once. They are huge.;)
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#15
MilkyWay
ibm used to be the big boy in pcs back in the 80s not so much these days tho, im sure they used to make cpus that rivaled intel?

good to see that a man can break into the world of programming by making small programs and drivers these days, back in the 90s that was a good way of getting a job

i remember they used to higher people who made mods and programs years ago like i said
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#16
DaedalusHelios
MilkyWayibm used to be the big boy in pcs back in the 80s not so much these days tho, im sure they used to make cpus that rivaled intel?

good to see that a man can break into the world of programming by making small programs and drivers these days, back in the 90s that was a good way of getting a job

i remember they used to higher people who made mods and programs years ago like i said
They made the Tri-Core 3.2Ghz in Xbox 360's. They have the means to do it. They just usually go for higher profit margins.
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#17
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
Good, now nVidia just needs to buy him some ATi cards so he can get the drivers up and running.

It really isn't a big surprise that ATi isn't sending him samples. Even W1z has complained about ATi's lack or effort to get samples out.
candle_86your a fanboy honestly dude
Yes, he is. Just add him to your ignore list and move on.
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#18
Unregistered
DaedalusHeliosIBM has enough funds to buy Nvidia, AMD, and Intel all at once. They are huge.;)
WOW, but y did they move away from pc scene ?

y do they make only super high end supercomputers that cant even play crysis ?
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
wolf2009WOW, but y did they move away from pc scene ?

y do they make only super high end supercomputers that cant even play crysis ?
People don't use supercomputers for unproductive things like playing games. It costs 1000's of dollars /hour to hire and run a supercomp. It doesn't imply supercomputers can't crunch Crysis.

For the IBM Roadrunner, for example, Crysis could be Minesweeper.
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#20
yogurt_21
kinda makes you want to hack nvdirver all the time, mi9ght just get a job out of it. lol that dude got lucky, nv could have just as easily sued him, instead they recognized talent and saw it as an oppurtunity to advertize cuda while obtaining a good programmer. I have give props to them on this.
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#21
Darkrealms
Damn, guess its a good thing I didn't bet on it when I first heard it. I would have bet Nvidia would have sue'd like hell.
Oh well, at least they did a good job of turning it around : )
Creative are you listening?????
EastCoasthandleOh really? I guess you missed this.
Don't start stuff if you know someones a fan boy. . .
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#22
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Guys, please, no name calling, "he/she/it is a fanboy", etc. Thanks!
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#23
Unregistered
btarunrPeople don't use supercomputers for unproductive things like playing games. It costs 1000's of dollars /hour to hire and run a supercomp. It doesn't imply supercomputers can't crunch Crysis.

For the IBM Roadrunner, for example, Crysis could be Minesweeper.
yes it hink it may be, but i think software is holding us back .

Look at this, this made me laugh .

#24
chron
wolf2009yes it hink it may be, but i think software is holding us back .

Look at this, this made me laugh .

lol that had me lmao.
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