Wednesday, October 1st 2008
SpursEngine based Video Cards out Soon
The term "SpursEngine" might be a little new for some of us. It is the HD video processor Toshiba used in its Qosmio G55 and F40 high-end media notebooks, where the company chose to call it "Toshiba Quad-Core HD processor". The SpursEngine tag comes in, where the processor uses Toshiba's proprietary technology to accelerate graphics and HD video across multiple heads. The chip itself is derived from the CELL Broadband Engine (CBE), the central processor that drives the Sony Playstation 3 gaming console. Toshiba made modifications to the design, by reducing the number of synergistic processing elements (dubbed cores) to 4, with the common PowerPC thread arbiter remaining. It is specialized for video processing.
Toshiba has already formed collaborations with Leadtek and Thomson, the two companies would be the first to come out with cards based on this infant video processor. As such, these are not stand-alone video-cards as of now (they lack output logic), they stand to demonstrate the GPUs design methodology in a PC environment, so the companies could gain foothold. The cards could serve as HD video processing solutions, for industrial, office or home use. Toshiba could put in its proprietary video processing technologies into this product. The Leadtek Winfast PxVC 1100 is pictured below. It uses PCI-Express x1 interface, and comes with 128 MB of XDR memory. The cards could be out by the end of this month, and could carry a steep price-tag of US $286, at least going by the listings in Japan.
Source:
PC World
Toshiba has already formed collaborations with Leadtek and Thomson, the two companies would be the first to come out with cards based on this infant video processor. As such, these are not stand-alone video-cards as of now (they lack output logic), they stand to demonstrate the GPUs design methodology in a PC environment, so the companies could gain foothold. The cards could serve as HD video processing solutions, for industrial, office or home use. Toshiba could put in its proprietary video processing technologies into this product. The Leadtek Winfast PxVC 1100 is pictured below. It uses PCI-Express x1 interface, and comes with 128 MB of XDR memory. The cards could be out by the end of this month, and could carry a steep price-tag of US $286, at least going by the listings in Japan.
24 Comments on SpursEngine based Video Cards out Soon
Also, how well does this XDR RAM work compared to normal GDDR?
Draw your own conclusions.
This looks kinda pointless tbh, and as others have pointed out, ati and nvidia carda can already do this at a lower price.
On the other hand when you have got integrated mobile graphic from ATI/AMD and it supports hybrid Crossfire you won;t buy it. Lets wait for low profile HD4550 they will be definetly cheaper and mote powerfull in crossfire :)
I dunno who wrote the original story, but they don't seem to understand what these cards are meant to be for.
The idea is for this to be an add-on card that does video processing at much higher speeds than the CPU.
I don't think it was really intended as a general consumer product, although it seems like Toshiba is trying to push it as such in their notebooks in Japan.
There's a translate version of the original Leadtek press release here and it talks about it being an MPEG2, MPEG4, AVC and H.264 accelerator, nothing else. There's great potential in this technology for those that encode a lot of video as it's meant to speed up video encoding by a fair bit, even more than Nvidia's CUDA implementation and it might even work as there seem to be a fair bit of 3rd party support already, unlike the crappy Badaboom application that hardly seem to work.
PS.
but more than like nvidia will have a way to counter this totally and it will benefit ati users also like physx on nvidia and graphics on ati
This would be awesome for F@H, if it can work: how many PCI x1 slots does the avarage mobo have? 2, 3?
If they can find other uses for the high processing power of the Cell CPU, (such as physics processing in games), then this would really be quite a good product.
Unfortunately the price tag will limit it mostly to multimedia professional applications...
This thing basically is a CPU lol.
Yes, you can do video encoding on a graphics card, ATI did it a long time ago but seems to have forgotten about it and Nvidia is doing it with CUDA and Badaboom, except at least the demo version doesn't seem to work all that well as it crashes left right and center.
But that's besides the point, as like someone pointed out, this is a very specialized quad core CPU on a card. It could most likely be used for other data intensive tasks, but it's worth bearing in mind that this isn't the full PS3 CPU, it's a cut-down version that has been designed specifically for video processing, but it doesn't mean that it's limited to doing that.
As for the price, well, it sucks, so yeah, don't expect Dell to start bundling these cards any time soon :p
The SpursEngine has four SPUs and operates at 1.5 GHz, peaking at 48 Gflops, 12 Gflops per SPU. The accelerator card connects to a 1x PCI Express bus and has 128 MB XDR DRAM with 12.8 GB/s
Basically you can make linux run on this if it wasn't for the narrow PCI-E 1x port. (It supports 4x too though)
So it's really not limited to encoding. Other possibilities would be folding, financial sector, medical sector, ... even physics. :D (anything that a gpu would be good at accelerating)