I will proudly stroke my Wii now.

AMD must be rolling in money because of the wii and xbox360's success.

Good stuff AMD and Nintendo, good stuff.

the wii is not a real console. it's a toy like a gameboy. "real" consoles have good graphics like x360 or ps3. the wii has the graphics that my xbox had.

also x360 arcade and premium are cheaper than the wii

mtosevthe wii is not a real console. it's a toy like a gameboy. "real" consoles have good graphics like x360 or ps3. the wii has the graphics that my xbox had.

also x360 arcade and premium are cheaper than the wii

Wii is a game console. You insert game media, connect the unit to a display, and use the controller to play a video-game. By definition that's a game console.

mtosevthe wii is not a real console. it's a toy like a gameboy. "real" consoles have good graphics like x360 or ps3. the wii has the graphics that my xbox had.

also x360 arcade and premium are cheaper than the wii

Allow me to enlighten you.

A real console by your definition would be the gamecube. It had superior graphics to the ps2 thus the ps2 is a toy.

You can't say its a toy simply because it doesn't have the same graphics. Its not all about graphics and bloom its about how much fun the console is. If the ps3 rendered everything exactly like real life and all you did was walk about and do nothing that wouldn't be fun.

mtosevthe wii is not a real console. it's a toy like a gameboy. "real" consoles have good graphics like x360 or ps3. the wii has the graphics that my xbox had.

also x360 arcade and premium are cheaper than the wii

I would have to disagree about the Wii not being a "Real" console. Sure, the graphics are not in par with the Xbox 360 or PS3 but I have to say I have alot more fun playing on a Wii than the other two consoles because I actually have to get off my ass and I like the feeling of being more "involved" in a game instead of just mashing buttons. If I want eye candy then I'd go for a 360 or PS3, but if I want something more...Wii it is. I just can't believe how well the Wii is doing considering the economic turmoil the world is in right now. Keep it up Nintendo!

mtosevthe wii is not a real console. it's a toy like a gameboy. "real" consoles have good graphics like x360 or ps3. the wii has the graphics that my xbox had.

also x360 arcade and premium are cheaper than the wii

Welcome to earth? lol

than this also a console: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wed_bW8iiEw

mtosevthan this also a console: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wed_bW8iiEw

I didn't deny.

mtosevthan this also a console: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wed_bW8iiEw

Yeah its a console by definition.

So is this, V-tech Smile www.vtechkids.com/product.cfm?productID=530, and my daughter loves it!! Yes, and so do I:shadedshu

Wii is a console, the PS3 is a computer/multimedia player.

But I don't really like the Wii though.. I'd rather go for the 360.

DrPepperYeah its a console by definition.

i said it's not a "real" console. look how the gfx looks on the x360 and ps3. wii gfx (2006) = xbox gfx (2001).

mtosevi said it's not a "real" console. look how the gfx looks on the x360 and ps3. wii gfx (2006) = xbox gfx (2001).

So then your pc is not a "real" pc x800 = 2004 versus 4870X2 = 2008

no that whould be my old pc. i have a e6600, p5w dh deluxe, 2x 1gb gskill,..

/me facepalms

Looks like you're alone on that one.

DrPepperAllow me to enlighten you.

A real console by your definition would be the gamecube. It had superior graphics to the ps2 thus the ps2 is a toy.

You can't say its a toy simply because it doesn't have the same graphics. Its not all about graphics and bloom its about how much fun the console is. If the ps3 rendered everything exactly like real life and all you did was walk about and do nothing that wouldn't be fun.

i dont want to get in a flaming war, but did you just say the gamecube has better graphics then the ps2...*blinks*

SPECS XBOX PlayStation 2 GameCube
CPU 733 MHz 300 MHz 485 MHz
Graphics Processor 233 MHz custom-designed X-Chip, developed by Microsoft and nVidia 143 MHz Sony GS 162MHz ATI
RAM 64 MB 36 MB 43 MB
Memory Bandwidth 6.4 GB/sec 3.2 GB/sec 2.6 GB/sec
Polygon Performance 125 M/sec 66 M/sec 6-12 M/sec
Simultaneous Textures 4 1 ???
Pixel Fill Rate - No Texture 4.0 G/Sec 2.4 G/sec ???
Pixel Fill Rate - 1 Textures 4.0 G/Sec 1.2 G/Sec ???
Pixel Fill Rate - 2 Textures 4.8 G/Sec 0.6 G/Sec ???
Compressed Textures Yes (6:1) No Yes (6:1)
Storage Medium 2-5x DVD, 8 GB hard disk, 8 MB memory card 4x DVD, 8 MB memory card 1.5GB disc, ½ MB memory card
I/O Game controller x4, Ethernet (10/100) Game controller x2, USB Game controller x4, High-speed serial port x2, High-speed serial parallel port
Audio Channels 256 48 64
3D Audio Support Yes (64 3D channels) No Yes
MIDI/DLS2 Support Yes Yes ???
Hardware Audio Filtering & EQ Yes No ???
Broadband Enabled Yes Optional purchase Optional purchase
DVD Movie Playback Remote control accessory required Yes No
Modem Enabled No (built in 10/100 ethernet) No Yes, 56K (separate purchase)
Game pad included Yes Yes Yes
HDTV Support Yes Yes Yes
HDTV Game Support Yes No
Maximum resolution 1920 x 1080 1280 x 1024 ???
Maximum resolution (2 x 32bpp frame buffers +Z) 1920 x 1080 1280 x 1024 ???
US Launch Date Nov. 15, 2001 Fall 2000 Nov. 18, 2001

look at memory bandwith.
look at polygon performace, and fill rates.

gamecube..psssh

mtosevthe wii is not a real console. it's a toy like a gameboy. "real" consoles have good graphics like x360 or ps3. the wii has the graphics that my xbox had.

also x360 arcade and premium are cheaper than the wii

Hmmm I'm not sure if you're trying to be a troll here but Ill risk a feeding.

Anyway the Wii is the only "real" console out as far as I'm concerned. The rest are sub-par PC's. Iv been playing games for 27 years and if you think a console should always have better graphics than the last generation then your missing the point of gaming. It's about gameplay. Not graphics. If you're so concerned with graphics then you should be spending your money on a good GPU and not a console.

What does the PS3 or 360 bring new to the table? USB cables and HDMI is about all they offer over the last generation. Now the Wii on the other hand has revolutionized home gaming. Nintendo has done something to gaming that hasn't been done since the Atari and thats the way we perceive games should be played.

Sure the Xbox is now cheaper then the Wii but that wasnt always the case. You can lower the price after the fact but still........thats after the fact. Wii has always been about gaming. Its not a little gaming PC wannabe. Mark my words the "next-gen" systems Sony and Microsoft produce will have Wii style controls.

Marineborni dont want to get in a flaming war, but did you just say the gamecube has better graphics then the ps2...*blinks*
look at memory bandwith.
look at polygon performace, and fill rates.

gamecube..psssh

Marineborn I ain't going to argue with you as numbers don't lie. But remember its not always about the hardware but how the game uses it. Did you know RE4 was voted best graphics for the last generation of systems? I mean thats beating the original Xbox which had FAR superior hardware.

where is the point in buying a "next-gen" console if my old one has the same gfx as the next-gen console. the only pont would be if you have money to throw out of the window.

also my x360 has gfx like this: what does the wii have? gfx from the year 2002.

mtosevwhere is the point in buying a "next-gen" console if my old one has the same gfx as the next-gen console. the only pont would be if you have money to throw out of the window.

also my x360 has gfx like this: www.megaleecher.net/uploads/GTA4_XBOX.jpg what does the wii have? gfx from the year 2002.

You don't understand gaming man. The Wii's sales prove my point. However you ask what the Wii brings? Superior control and a MUCH faster learning curve. After all it is about games and not graphics ;) Again if its about graphics then you should by a better PC. Show me a console game that looks like this.....

TheMailMan78You don't understand gaming man. The Wii's sales prove my point. However you ask what the Wii brings? Superior control and a MUCH faster learning curve. After all it is about games and not graphics ;) Again if its about graphics then you should by a better PC. Show me a console game that looks like this.....

scr3.golem.de/screenshots/0603/crytek-crysis/crysis_05.jpg
origin-of-onefire.co.uk/FlamedUp/Relic/00036.jpg

wait for Crysis for the ps3 and you will see gfx like that on a console.

@ marineborn

Remember that the 2900XTX looks like it would eat the 8800GTX if you looked at thenumbers but it doesn't. There are more to it than just the clock speeds and shader count etc.

TheMailMan78Marineborn I ain't going to argue with you as numbers don't lie. But remember its not always about the hardware but how the game uses it. Did you know RE4 was voted best graphics for the last generation of systems? I mean thats beating the original Xbox which had FAR superior hardware.

Exactly I was going to use RE4 as an example.

@mtosev

The ps3 can't even run crysis never mind beat the pc.

mtosevwait for Crysis for the ps3 and you will see gfx like that on a console.

omg u just phail yourself :roll:
sorry i can't stop rolling

mtosevwhere is the point in buying a "next-gen" console if my old one has the same gfx as the next-gen console. the only pont would be if you have money to throw out of the window.

also my x360 has gfx like this: www.megaleecher.net/uploads/GTA4_XBOX.jpg what does the wii have? gfx from the year 2002.

Wii is about fun, entertaining gameplay and is catered for all ages.

Xbox 360, PS3 is about cutting edge technology be it in soft or hardware and is catered to a certain range of players.

If you emphasize on gfx as marketing pitch among these consoles, then you are wrong. Wii uses fun and unique gaming experience as its pitch.

If theres a GTA4 for Wii, i would get it rather than on Xbox 360 or PS3 despite the old gfx you have been crying about.