These should be awesome. I saw some ES screens and they hit 4ghz at 1.35v..

I have my Paypal account comfortably padded to pick one of these up on launch day.

Pete1burnI have my Paypal account comfortably padded to pick one of these up on launch day.

I wish I did lol My dad's getting one for our HTPC so I will get to play with one at least :D

ShadowFoldThese should be awesome. I saw some ES screens and they hit 4ghz at 1.35v..

cpuz doesn't read volts right on phenom 1.35v is stock vcore on them and from there they vould have been at anything i can show you a SS of mine @4.8ghz 1.35v

i already have a x3 720 be but these i would rather get, sure no point in upgrading now tho plus i likely saved a few pounds going tri core

It be nice to see some Stepped Previous Core CPUs, I hope this 955 is on a Newer stepping than the others tho.

eidairaman1It be nice to see some Stepped Previous Core CPUs, I hope this 955 is on a Newer stepping than the others tho.

it will be a C3 revesion memory controller that doesn't have the "bug" were you can't use 4 sticks of ddr3 1333

I apologise for being a little negative (If i am with this post)

but its taken them 3/4months just to come out with a +200mhz on the same core? lol

with the added ability to use DDR3 which is more or less on par with DDR2. you're probably better off buying a X4 940 & overclocking that instead

It took a stepping to get the DDR3 MC fixed, so its understandable as to why it takes time. I do believe that AMD needs to make a major call on the IMC, because they didnt have this problem with implementing DDR, DDR2 and 3 is what is giving them the problems.

Let's keep this civil guys!

FreedomEclipseI apologise for being a little negative (If i am with this post)

but its taken them 3/4months just to come out with a +200mhz on the same core? lol

with the added ability to use DDR3 which is more or less on par with DDR2. you're probably better off buying a X4 940 & overclocking that instead

it took them a couple months to get 200mhz in the same thermal envelope which is somthing intel struggles with to. a 940 will use about 140w to get 3.2ghz on stock volts remember what happened when amd put out the last batch of 140w chips? now if you undervolt and oc you can easily get 3.2ghz@ below stock vcore and have a 125w (or lower) cpu.


i have used a 945ES with DDR2 and DDR3 and it shows an improvement while its not a huge one there is an improvement none the less.

this is ... only the second part of the second wave :)

the 3 wave will come :)

eidairaman1I do believe that AMD needs to make a major call on the IMC, because they didnt have this problem with implementing DDR, DDR2 and 3 is what is giving them the problems.

Actually, they did have this exact same problem with the ddr2 memory controllers on the Phenom. Once you put 4 sticks of ddr2-1066 RAM in your motherboard, you cannot run them at that speed (it drops down to ddr2-800 speeds).

Solutions? Either run the RAM at the lower speed, or jack up the reference clock so that they are running at the higher speed again. I'm sure these solutions also apply for the ddr3 memory controllers on the am3 chips.

devguyActually, they did have this exact same problem with the ddr2 memory controllers on the Phenom. Once you put 4 sticks of ddr2-1066 RAM in your motherboard, you cannot run them at that speed (it drops down to ddr2-800 speeds).

Solutions? Either run the RAM at the lower speed, or jack up the reference clock so that they are running at the higher speed again. I'm sure these solutions also apply for the ddr3 memory controllers on the am3 chips.

or you could just set it to 1066 manually thats what i did on mine?

If they release a new phenom (+200mhz) every month, people will just wait for the next, and next, keeping at 2 months, there have been a time from each product.
People forget it abit, and then o0o. so its more like that aswell.

+ memory controller issue

This must be AMD's way of saying happy B-day to me, it's on 4/20.

devguyActually, they did have this exact same problem with the ddr2 memory controllers on the Phenom. Once you put 4 sticks of ddr2-1066 RAM in your motherboard, you cannot run them at that speed (it drops down to ddr2-800 speeds).

Solutions? Either run the RAM at the lower speed, or jack up the reference clock so that they are running at the higher speed again. I'm sure these solutions also apply for the ddr3 memory controllers on the am3 chips.

what i was getting at is AMD didnt have this problem with DDR. They had the problem with DDR2 and DDR3, thats why they were slow to implement the next Ram standard if you can even call it a standard anymore. Only thing that seems to have stayed standard is Motherboards, Cases and Power Supplies (ATX)

DDR to DDR2 was a must, not necissarily because speed (that helped), but the big thing was price. Right off the bat DDR2's price tanked, I remember right around when DDR2 released I bought 1GB Geil DDR 400mhz 2-2-5-2 and it was like $125 (ouch), then I would say 5- 6 months later I finally stepped up to DDR2 and I picked up 2GB for like $5 or $50.

The switch to DDR3 isn't cheap tough and the performance gain is minimal. Although I will admit some cheaper DDR3 sticks are starting to surface, you can pick up 2x2GB DDR3 1600 G.skill setup for like $75 on the egg, so it's getting very tempting.

kenkickrThis must be AMD's way of saying happy B-day to me, it's on 4/20.

If only you could get one as an gift too ? :P

my 940 runs nice though :)

hopefully it matches the performance of the i7...Then maybe I would go to the AMD side...:D

h3llb3nd4hopefully it matches the performance of the i7...Then maybe I would go to the AMD side...:D

Competitive pricewise not speedwise.

h3llb3nd4hopefully it matches the performance of the i7...Then maybe I would go to the AMD side...:D

Not even close. They'll be good for their price though.

oooo...

This CPU is coming out on 420 ... Either Buy this.. Or A lot of the other good stuff... Or Buy both and have great fun with them

Defiantly will be waiting for this CPU instead of a 940 which I was going to purchase in a couple days... As well for me to prepare for Ln2 project, l will be waiting for this CPU

woot

cdawallit took them a couple months to get 200mhz in the same thermal envelope which is somthing intel struggles with to. a 940 will use about 140w to get 3.2ghz on stock volts remember what happened when amd put out the last batch of 140w chips? now if you undervolt and oc you can easily get 3.2ghz@ below stock vcore and have a 125w (or lower) cpu.


i have used a 945ES with DDR2 and DDR3 and it shows an improvement while its not a huge one there is an improvement none the less.

Intel doesn't struggle with it. They've been sandbagging for 2 years now because AMD hasn't given them any reason to raise clock speeds until recently. And with the transition to the new sockets, I doubt they are going to put any real effort into raising their clock speeds.

Wait so when is PII945 going to be out? O.o
There's a date for this but not for 945?
What about that 950 business?
Will this be Black Edition?

Whatever the case, this sounds awesome...