Monday, August 24th 2009

Radeon HD 5870 Aggressively Priced: Report

According to a fresh report by Donanim Haber, AMD's next performance graphics accelerator, the Radeon HD 5870, codenamed "Cypress" is expected to be aggressively priced, at US $299. At that price, it intends to be highly competitive against GeForce GTX 285 from NVIDIA. The secret-sauce behind the price could be the 40 nm fab process on which the GPU is being built, which allows upping transistor counts while maintaining significantly smaller die-sizes compared to 55 nm.

There is a great deal of uncertainty surrounding the specifications of the GPU, including what level of performance with existing application could it end up offering. Some sources, such as ChipHell, which are one of the first to leak pictures of components related to various Evergreen family products claim the Cypress GPU to have an almost 100% increase in stream processor counts compared to RV770, while others remain conservative expecting it to be around 50%. With this kind of a pricing, Cypress could trigger market-wide changes in GPU pricing, if it ends up with a good price/performance ratio at $299.

Cypress is expected to be launched on 22 September, close to two weeks after the company unveils the Evergreen family of DirectX 11 compliant GPUs on September 10. Market availability is expected in October. In related news from the same report, the enthusiast-grade accelerator that uses two of these GPUs, codenamed "Hemlock", is expected to be out in November.
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197 Comments on Radeon HD 5870 Aggressively Priced: Report

#26
enzolt
darn, way out of my budget. with college starting up again, looks like i gotta save up for a few months again.
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#27
SonDa5
AltecV1i was hoping it to be 249$ but its not:ohwell:
Me too.

Oh well. I'll just wait till the price comes down. Maby by Christmas there will be some good deals on them. :toast:
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#29
HalfAHertz
The way I see it, if they keep to the same form factor of the die, moving from 55nm to 40 nm means 1,375 times more transistors( 55/40)
So if we take the 800SPs of the rv770 and multiply it with 1,375, we end up at 1100, which is not dividable by 80, Thus rounding the final number to 1120 or going for a bit bigger die and ending up at 1200SPs.

Not sure if nm scales work like that tho :)

I'm pretty sure ATi will keep going with the same strategy for their chips - if not completely able to beat the nVidia giants, can at least compete at a price/performance point
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#30
erocker
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No suprise on price at all and glad to see it.
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#31
Steevo
I still want a 2GB version. I would pay $359 for one.
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#32
werez
my first dissapointment :

Lynnfield i5-750 199EUR , listed in GERMANY , ready for shipping . PErformance wise , still < i7 920 .
MSI P55-GD80, P55 priced at 195 EUR , listed in GERMANY , ready for shipping .

Now , thats 394EUR .

ASRock X58 Extreme, X58 listed at 132EUR price point .
Intel Core i7-920 listed at 225EUR price point .

Now , thats 357EUR.

They dumped tripple channel memory , so you buy "cheaper" dual channel .. whatever ..

So i can sacrifice tripple channel , buy myself a decent cooler , overclock the 920 , and use the ASRock X58 Extreme ( high end board actually ) , enjoy sli or CF at full speed . Now where is that milestone that intel was talking about ? What i3 dual core that are performing just like the e8400 and will cost 5EUR less ?

So now moovig forward to AMD . Introducing a really high end chipset , bla bla bla , priced somewhere around 230 and give me the same performance as a HD4870X2 ? I DON'T THINK SO .
They will have to cut the HD4870 price at send it in the sub 90EUR zone . THAT IS NOT GOING to happen . NOT ! they have to keep some kind of balance between GPU`s . In my oppinion they will offer a little more boost in terms of performance , dx11 support , lower power consumption , and that`s it . AMD is not making charity actions !
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#33
Kitkat
i cant WAIT! rofl im gonna go ape$hit! im gonna be poor too alot of tech toys come out in next 3 months. Ill just eat bread and water, i dont care :roll::roll::roll: omg lol
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#34
Nick89
tiggerIt'll be £299 in the rip off uk.
$299.99 = £182.72

£299.99 = $492.51


Man thats a crazy ripoff.
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#35
Kitkat
Nick89$299.99 = £182.72

£299.99 = $492.51


Man thats a crazy ripoff.
um did u see the chart with the math. lol what did u expect
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#36
Nick89
Kitkatum did u see the chart with the math. lol what did u expect
What chart? I wanted to see what £299 would be converted into dollers. So I looked it up and saw how much you get ripped off in the UK for computer parts.
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#38
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
PCpraiser100Wow, AMD is falling back into the trap that Nvidia has set up AGAIN. This happened when the HD 3000 series came up, and now, Nvidia is simply going to strike back using retaliation as their advantage over knowing the weaknesses of this video card. This reminds me of chess too much.
What trap? Thats called a market. Nvidia had a good foot hold till AMD bought out ATi, then the 3870x2 was king, then the GTX280 rolled out and was king, and then the 4870x2 was, then the GTX295, and soon the 5870 or 5870x2.

It's just a back and forth thing, no ones playing into any game, the later product usually should be faster, thats why its later. But remember there is a 4890 right now, and with ATi having what sounds like a 4 to 6 month lead on a 40nm chip, they might have a barn burner 5890 ready to hit the market by the time Nvidia even joins them with a DX11 40nm GPU.
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#39
Scrizz
nice, can't wait for the $50 off in the first week :D
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#40
ghost101
Nick89$299.99 = £182.72

£299.99 = $492.51


Man thats a crazy ripoff.
Don't worry. It won't be £299. Brits just like to complain.

The HD4870 was around £200 on release. I bought the HD4850 on release at £120. US price of both cards were $299 and $199 respectively.

The £:$ exchange rate is slightly worse this time around though. So prices will be a bit higher.
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#42
Drac
Scrizznice, can't wait for the $50 off in the first week :D
+10000
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#43
IINexusII
im only buying it if it gets to £200
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#44
Anath
If the rumors are true that the 5870 will have similiar/better performance than the 4870x2 then i will pick one up...however if not i think ill pick up two 4890s and put them in crossfire :)
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#45
MoonPig
The 4870 was £220 on release here. If it's the same or abit lower after a week or so... I'm very tempted.
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#46
Nick89
1Kurgan1What trap? Thats called a market. Nvidia had a good foot hold till AMD bought out ATi, then the 3870x2 was king, then the GTX280 rolled out and was king, and then the 4870x2 was, then the GTX295, and soon the 5870 or 5870x2.

It's just a back and forth thing, no ones playing into any game, the later product usually should be faster, thats why its later. But remember there is a 4890 right now, and with ATi having what sounds like a 4 to 6 month lead on a 40nm chip, they might have a barn burner 5890 ready to hit the market by the time Nvidia even joins them with a DX11 40nm GPU.
My X1950XT wants a word with you.
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#47
JATownes
The Lurker
AnathIf the rumors are true that the 5870 will have similiar/better performance than the 4870x2 then i will pick one up...however if not i think ill pick up two 4890s and put them in crossfire :)
You stole my plan...:p I figure I am going to grab 2 4890s to replace my 4850s when the HD5000s launch (can you say price drop?), then wait til the new Nvidia cards launch (Dec-Jan) and grab a pair of 5870s (Price drop again?)
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#48
LittleLizard
nice price. too bad it will cost like 400 dollars here.
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#49
Cuzza
btarunrThe secret-sauce behind the price could be the 40 nm fab process
MMmmmmmmmm secret sauce
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#50
Anath
JATownesYou stole my plan...:p I figure I am going to grab 2 4890s to replace my 4850s when the HD5000s launch (can you say price drop?), then wait til the new Nvidia cards launch (Dec-Jan) and grab a pair of 5870s (Price drop again?)
haha dang i didnt even think about that picking them up when the nvidia cards come out haha thats a good idea...i still need to pick up a crossfire board though...maybe i can find a nice used one or a combo deal or something
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