Monday, August 24th 2009

Radeon HD 5870 Aggressively Priced: Report

According to a fresh report by Donanim Haber, AMD's next performance graphics accelerator, the Radeon HD 5870, codenamed "Cypress" is expected to be aggressively priced, at US $299. At that price, it intends to be highly competitive against GeForce GTX 285 from NVIDIA. The secret-sauce behind the price could be the 40 nm fab process on which the GPU is being built, which allows upping transistor counts while maintaining significantly smaller die-sizes compared to 55 nm.

There is a great deal of uncertainty surrounding the specifications of the GPU, including what level of performance with existing application could it end up offering. Some sources, such as ChipHell, which are one of the first to leak pictures of components related to various Evergreen family products claim the Cypress GPU to have an almost 100% increase in stream processor counts compared to RV770, while others remain conservative expecting it to be around 50%. With this kind of a pricing, Cypress could trigger market-wide changes in GPU pricing, if it ends up with a good price/performance ratio at $299.

Cypress is expected to be launched on 22 September, close to two weeks after the company unveils the Evergreen family of DirectX 11 compliant GPUs on September 10. Market availability is expected in October. In related news from the same report, the enthusiast-grade accelerator that uses two of these GPUs, codenamed "Hemlock", is expected to be out in November.
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#176
erocker
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Stop now. Post in a polite, respectful manner or don't post at all. Consider this an "official" warning for all.
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#177
Achilles1600
i think nvidia siad that they are going to announce the GT300 in october.
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#178
JATownes
The Lurker
Achilles1600i think nvidia siad that they are going to announce the GT300 in october.
I think this will probably be a paper launch in October...Unfortunately, I do not expect to see GT300 cards at retailers until December/January...but I could be wrong...
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#179
Unregistered
Sorry erocker,it seems me and kylew have conflicting opinions.I wont post in this thread anymore.
#180
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
JATownesI think this will probably be a paper launch in October...Unfortunately, I do not expect to see GT300 cards at retailers until December/January...but I could be wrong...
Your right, Q1 2010 was always going to be the official release to retail date I think.
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#181
Bo_Fox
tiggerSorry erocker,it seems me and kylew have conflicting opinions.I wont post in this thread anymore.
Nah, I agree with you about the UK prices.. everytime I visit a U.K. website, the prices seem ridiculous!!! :laugh: You could just block him and not let him stop you from posting in this thread.

Well, I certainly do hope that Powercolor is right about the $299 price.. but then again, it could be for a 5850 and not a 5890! Heh heh.. :slap:
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#182
kylew
Bo_FoxNah, I agree with you about the UK prices.. everytime I visit a U.K. website, the prices seem ridiculous!!! :laugh: You could just block him and not let him stop you from posting in this thread.

Well, I certainly do hope that Powercolor is right about the $299 price.. but then again, it could be for a 5850 and not a 5890! Heh heh.. :slap:
It's not illegal to disagree you know...

The reason I was disagreeing though is that there's plenty of evidence to suggest what they're going to be priced at.

To suggest blocking some one who disagrees with you though? That's mental...


Also, there won't be a 5870 at release, it'll be a 5850 and 5870 according to the rumours.
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#184
jamesrt2004
Obvious they have the whole "we want somethign bigger and better" market for a good few months, nvidia will be paper launching in september also to try take the thunder away...

its just common sense and we have sene it many times, the moment nvidia then release there cards (they wont have x2 on launch either) ati will have massive price cut, intoduce the X" either a few days before or same day and like last time it seems will be able to undercut (we shall see the performance soon though)

I dont see why everyones worrying just wait till jan :cool:


(liking the rumours about 30~w idle thats been spreading I think thats a bit over exagurated but yeah, I think it's a big hint to say that they have worked out the gddr5 stuff)
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#186
Bo_Fox
kylewIt's not illegal to disagree you know...

The reason I was disagreeing though is that there's plenty of evidence to suggest what they're going to be priced at.

To suggest blocking some one who disagrees with you though? That's mental...

Also, there won't be a 5870 at release, it'll be a 5850 and 5870 according to the rumours.
All right, sorry about rubbing you the wrong way, bud. Just asking--are there UK websites that sell for as cheap as US sites like Newegg.com?

And you mean 5870X2, right?
HalfAHertzIt appears the HD5xxx are going to be a it of a rip-off compared to HD4xxx
www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/2/ati-radeon-58502c-58702c-5870x2-pricing-revealed.aspx

We'll have to wait and see a few more days
The article that you linked to does not indicate anything about the 58xx being a rip-off. I just read it again... The rumors are that it will have around 2x the trannies, shaders, TMU's, ROP's, etc.. plus DX11 features.
jamesrt2004(liking the rumours about 30~w idle thats been spreading I think thats a bit over exagurated but yeah, I think it's a big hint to say that they have worked out the gddr5 stuff)
Could be.. but perhaps they are just talking about the lower-end Cypress parts (like the 4770, but with DX11 features).
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#188
largon
Bo_Fox
jamesrt2004(liking the rumours about 30~w idle thats been spreading I think thats a bit over exagurated but yeah, I think it's a big hint to say that they have worked out the gddr5 stuff)
Could be.. but perhaps they are just talking about the lower-end Cypress parts (like the 4770, but with DX11 features).
Considering it doesn't take anything more than underclocking a HD4890 to c200 and m300 to get the card to idle at ~30W then it shouldn't be a problem at all with the next gen parts...
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#189
a_ump
yea. well 2 more days :). i'm hoping that the paper launch and maybe reviews are thrown up at 12:01 AM tomorro nite. Just gotta know if i sold my Hd 4870 for a good reason. What i'd like to see is the HD 5850 outperforming the GTX 285 by 10-20% and the HD 5870 outperform the GTX 285 by 20-50%. but who knows could be wishful thinkin or could be spot on.
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#190
erocker
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pantherx12Thanks to Powercolor leaking the price that's already been debunked : ]
Heh, unless Powercolors price was for the 5850.
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#191
TheQuestian
ArmoredCavalryThank you sir. :)
+1

Yeah, I don't get why the price point is so hard to understand. More advanced tech + similar or lower price = pressure. Isn't pressure the whole point in a competitive market? :ohwell:

And based on the few leaked benchmarks and the early response from reviewers I have seen, there's reason to believe that the 5870 will routinely outperform a GTX 295 with room to spare. The GTX 285 will not even be in the rear view.

For right now, Red Team: +1
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#192
TheQuestian
Heh, that said, I am hoping the GTX 285 drops below $200 so I can snag one for my new build! :toast:
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#193
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
TheQuestian+1

Yeah, I don't get why the price point is so hard to understand. More advanced tech + similar or lower price = pressure. Isn't pressure the whole point in a competitive market? :ohwell:

And based on the few leaked benchmarks and the early response from reviewers I have seen, there's reason to believe that the 5870 will routinely outperform a GTX 295 with room to spare. The GTX 285 will not even be in the rear view.

For right now, Red Team: +1
I agree, however, the rumoured $299 price tag seems to be for the 5850, with $400+ for the 5870..... that said, if it does bring GTX295 beating performance then thats damn good value (however I remain skeptical about it being considerably faster than the 295).
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#194
Binge
Overclocking Surrealism
Tatty_OneI agree, however, the rumoured $299 price tag seems to be for the 5850, with $400+ for the 5870..... that said, if it does bring GTX295 beating performance then thats damn good value (however I remain skeptical about it being considerably faster than the 295).
It seems to be faster in every game that nV hasn't made SLI profiles. In all of those games the FPS are already well over 60 even for a 4870. Just my .02
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#195
Melvis
tiggerIt'll be £299 in the rip off uk.
Yea that sounds about right, it be priced around $500 here in the land down under, i so hope im wrong tho.
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#196
TheQuestian
Tatty_OneI agree, however, the rumoured $299 price tag seems to be for the 5850, with $400+ for the 5870..... that said, if it does bring GTX295 beating performance then thats damn good value (however I remain skeptical about it being considerably faster than the 295).
Well, given ATI's (and NVIDIA's) track record for accurately representing the performance of their hardware, I don't understand the hesitation. ;)

Yeah, a healthy dose of "just-hold-on-a-second" is always safe in the face of a major product launch. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised if the 5870 and 5850 perform well enough to force prices down on all of NVIDIA's lineup, to include the GTX 295.
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