Friday, May 28th 2010

NVIDIA Removes Restriction on ATI GPUs with NVIDIA GPUs Processing PhysX

NVIDIA has reportedly removed the driver-level code which restricts users from having an NVIDIA GeForce GPU process PhysX with an ATI Radeon GPU in the lead, processing graphics. Version 257.15 Beta of the GeForce drivers brought about this change. Possible commercial interests may have played NVIDIA's previous decision to prevent the use of GeForce GPUs to process PhysX with ATI Radeon GPUs, where users could buy an inexpensive GeForce GPU to go with a high-end DirectX 11 compliant Radeon GPU, thereby reducing NVIDIA's margins, though officially NVIDIA maintained that the restriction was in place to ensure Quality Assurance. The present move also seems to have commercial interests in mind, as NVIDIA could clear inventories of GeForce GPUs at least to users of ATI Radeon GPUs. NVIDIA replenished its high-end offering recently with the DirectX 11 compliant GeForce 400 series GPUs.

Update (28/05): A fresh report by Anandtech says that the ability to use GeForce for PhysX in systems with graphics led by Radeon GPUs with the 257.15 beta driver is just a bug and not a feature. It means that this ability is one-off for this particular version of the driver, and future drivers may not feature it.
Source: NGOHQ.com
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276 Comments on NVIDIA Removes Restriction on ATI GPUs with NVIDIA GPUs Processing PhysX

#101
DaedalusHelios
EastCoasthandleOh they will, they will. This is Nv we are talking about here. ;)
I wish they would have allowed it. I guess we will continue to just modify a few files to make it work. It is against their own interest to do it but I guess they are ok with that. Is it the choice of the CEO or the board of directors/majority stock holders? If a company chooses to go against pursuing profit it will hurt their own company and stock holders which will ideally get the people who make those decisions fired. That is unless they aren't pursuing profit in that segment anymore and just making it a value added feature for their platform of graphics not allowing card mismatching. Still it is against their best interest and their company will be affected with decreased profits.

Maybe I thought their management was smarter than they in fact are. I do give people too much credit sometimes. :laugh:
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#102
v12dock
Block Caption of Rainey Street
Good way to get rid of there massive G92 stock
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#103
TRIPTEX_CAN
So being a dooshy ATI purist and all I guess I won't be buying a new Nvidia gpu for physx but I will still try this out with a used card. Intentional or not Nvidia still gave us newer drivers to play with, and whether or not they planned this there will be an increase in G92 sales either new GPUs or second hand. Nvidia still opened the door for us.
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#104
crow1001
LoL. why are people getting a stiffy for physx, all it is good for is trying, then you will soon realize what a waste of time, energy and heat a physx card is and subsequently remove it form your system. :toast:
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#105
erocker
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TRIPTEX_MTLSo being a dooshy ATI purist and all I guess I won't be buying a new Nvidia gpu for physx but I will still try this out with a used card. Intentional or not Nvidia still gave us newer drivers to play with, and whether or not they planned this there will be an increase in G92 sales either new GPUs or second hand. Nvidia still opened the door for us.
By accident apparently. Either way "bug" or not, there's a way to do it. :)
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#106
WSP
haha...
even before waiting on the next WHQL driver release, it's been updated that this is a bug.
too bad nv, I already downloaded those beta drivers with 'bug' :lol:

nv are really just making more people mad at them :nutkick:
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#107
Kitkat
THEY HAD TO U KNOW IT. NO SECRET SHOWS its band rule number 1 bitches lol

also....That open physics initiative is as serious as the 3D one. They cant stop it with this. OPEN OPEN OPEN. Theres still too much (little) money in phyx and gaming all together for it to stop sorry.
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#108
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
erockerI'm currently running two 5850's with a GT 240 for PhysX just fine. Going to pick up Batman tonight. :) What tests do you guys need done?
You don't happen to have a more powerful nVidia card also? Basically the argument is that a card like the GT 240 or 9600GT is going to be slower then a more powerful card, and there seems to be a sticking point that 128-bit vs. 256-bit memory bus makes a difference in PhysX. So maybe if you had a 9800GT to compare with the GT 240 it would be perfect since your graphics setup is one of the most powerful around.:toast:
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#113
bogie
So whats the best/affordable single slot nvidia physx solution to put with my ATi HD4870x2?
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#114
dadi_oh
bogieSo whats the best/affordable single slot nvidia physx solution to put with my ATi HD4870x2?
GT240
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#116
DigitalUK
yea just tested them and have been updated as well no physx, seems hard to find the ones from earlier now.
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#117
TheMailMan78
Big Member
Ok now I am out of the market. Damn you Nvidia. Such a cock tease.
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#118
driver66
For all of the bitching about how physx sucks and is "useless" These threads sure do generate A LOT of interest :rolleyes:
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#119
TheMailMan78
Big Member
driver66For all of the bitching about how physx sucks and is "useless" These threads sure do generate A LOT of interest :rolleyes:
Well it pretty much is. But its still something to F@#k with and this is an enthusiast site after all.

You do understand that even if a game uses Physx it doesn't necessarily use hardware Physx. Very few games do. Maybe 15? So yeah its pointless in practicality. Its just fun to play with in benches and such.
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#120
cadaveca
My name is Dave
driver66For all of the bitching about how physx sucks and is "useless" These threads sure do generate A LOT of interest :rolleyes:
Human nature...we always want what we cannot have. :cool:
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#122
driver66
I was just saying ............... :toast:


It's just the irony :roll:



MAILMAN !!!!!!!!!!! you stole my birth day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#123
Baam
Bah. When i saw this story i figured i would grab a Nvidia card from newegg to give PhysX a try. Oh well thanks for the update, just saved me a few bucks. I guess if you use an AMD card as your primary card Nvidia doesn't want your business.
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#124
ShRoOmAlIsTiC
BaamBah. When i saw this story i figured i would grab a Nvidia card from newegg to give PhysX a try. Oh well thanks for the update, just saved me a few bucks. I guess if you use an AMD card as your primary card Nvidia doesn't want your business.
which is kinda wierd if you ask me, they make motherboards for amd, why not make physx cards for amd as well.
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#125
dadi_oh
BaamBah. When i saw this story i figured i would grab a Nvidia card from newegg to give PhysX a try. Oh well thanks for the update, just saved me a few bucks. I guess if you use an AMD card as your primary card Nvidia doesn't want your business.
You can still do it :toast: Very quick and easy.

Seelink.

Works great for me. GT 240 as a dedicated Physx and 5870 main card.
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