USB 3.0 supplies lotsa power... so instead of going esata + huge plug, you can get fast external hardrives without plugs! :D

i like it

I like it a lot - got my USB3 card a few months ago - it's magic :)

Now a nice hub is all I need, and this appears to be made of win!

I'd be interested in seeing how much amps the standard power adapter for these puts out.

4-port 2.0 powered hubs usually had 5V/1A power bricks, which is half of what it really should be.

Wonder if this comes with a 5V/1.8A adapter.

NecrofireI'd be interested in seeing how much amps the standard power adapter for these puts out.
4-port 2.0 powered hubs usually had 5V/1A power bricks, which is half of what it really should be.
Wonder if this comes with a 5V/1.8A adapter.

Jolly good point :\

NecrofireI'd be interested in seeing how much amps the standard power adapter for these puts out.

4-port 2.0 powered hubs usually had 5V/1A power bricks, which is half of what it really should be.

Wonder if this comes with a 5V/1.8A adapter.

not really half, remember that you had the power of the host port as well as the power from the power brick.


sure USB3.0 hubs will need more power, but i bet you can use this without the external power for low powered devices just fine, as with USB 2.0 hubs (read: no USB powered HDD's)

Musselsnot really half, remember that you had the power of the host port as well as the power from the power brick.

sure USB3.0 hubs will need more power, but i bet you can use this without the external power for low powered devices just fine, as with USB 2.0 hubs (read: no USB powered HDD's)

Not wrong, just missing the point a little Mr Mussles : It's about Principals - not basic function - How would you like it if new cars came with a warning that the BREAKS don't work over 130Km/h? I mean sure they SHOULD, and heck knows the cars capable of going that fast, but you shouldn't be driving that fast anyway right? - so why bother doing a proper job on the breaks?

I'm sure many many devices will have no problem at all even without powering the hub - flash sticks and such would almost certainly not even notice the difference.

USB3 devices don't NEED 900ma (0.9A) per port, but the SPEC for USB3 says that a port SHOULD by all license law be able to DELIVER 900ma if say, for example somebody wanted to run 4 External USB3 Blu-Ray burners all at once off this hub, or whatever.

Basically to "legally" comply with USB3 Specifications a device MUST be able to deliver 0.9A per port, and the question is : WILL this device ship with a power brick capable of living up to basic spec?

Violation of this spec was the biggest cause of most the failures and BS ppl ever had with USB2, and the concept of USB itself took the heat for it rather than ppl attacking the manufacturers who violated design & license regulations.

This crap even went as far as some motherboard manufacturers saying Oh well USB2 needs 500ma per port, BUT unbeknown to MOST ppl many many motherboards with USB2 ports on board do not have say 8 ports they have 1 PORT ONLY that has already been hubb'ed on the motherboard, so the 1 ACTUAL port/controller got 500ma - for ALL 8 ports! ~62ma each...

So you now have an effectively ~68ma port being connected to a 4 port hub...? - Obviously since that 500ma total was SHARED amongst all the ports,you would get more than ~68ma per port if many other ports where un-used - but you get what I'm saying.

And that's also why so very often that stupid 2 headed USB2 cable you get with external 2.5" drives didn't do a damn thing for many many ppl - because both heads where plugged into the exact same, insufficient, power line.

And at this point even standard FLASH drives began to fail once you had 2 or 3 plugged in on many many cheaper boards.

Don't believe me? Get 2 USB2HDD's, hopefully nice new ones - make sure they can each read and write at pretty much USB2 max - lets say around ~30mb/s - now copy one very large file from one USB2 drive to the other - and watch your speeds - If it now transfers at ~14mb/s.. that's because your MoBo DON'T have 8 ports or whatever.. it's got 1.. only one, that's been hubb'ed on board, and you have been ripped off yet again by Captain Corporate.

Edit : (and for anyone who is less familiar with the tech, that's because the one controller now has to handle all of the reads for ONE drive, and all the WRITES for the other - so each one only gets half as much attention, and hence half the average performance - and it just divides up even worse the more devices you connect)

Easy to counter test as well - get a couple of add-on PIC/PCIe USB2 cards - slap them in your system, and plug one drive into each of them (or even just one card and plug one hdd into that , and another into your MoBo port) - now copy between drives at full 30+ mb/s why? because each drive actually HAS a controller now.

Go even further - HDtune a full sector test on a USB2 drive - in the middle of the test start waving your high resolution gamers mouse around like a madman - and watch your data rates drop... Why? Only 1 ACTUAL port for all your USB2 needs, even your mouse competes with your HDD's, Flash Sticks for bandwidth - mouse may not use much data - but it has to create interrupts to push the few tiny packets it DOES send - and even that interferes.

I think im good for USB ports.

yes, cheap motherboards and cheap hubs suck. thats not my concern, i dont buy cheap generic shit.

every motherboard i've had and every USB hub has worked as expected.

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yes, cheap motherboards and cheap hubs suck. thats not my concern, i dont buy cheap generic shit. every motherboard i've had and every USB hub has worked as expected.

Again what you forget is :"Moo... You're a GOAT" and yeah Goats are rather immune to nonsense like this.

Most of us are Goats around here. The problem is that we goats make up less than 1% of this planets population, the other 99.9+% think that their iPhone is faster than your iPhone because their 32GB's iPhone has a much newer GBS version than your 16GB's iPhone, and hell everyone KNOWS bigger numbers are faster.

I S#!t you not, I took that straight from another forum :(

And these "other" 99.9% of ppl who DO get screwd by cheap junk & failed marketing and other underhanded behavior often land up being our Mothers, Sisters, Brothers, Fathers, Uncles & so on - and all of a sudden a problem that was never an issue for Us goats, IS now our problem because : who gets it in the ear when THEIR shiz doesn't work?

Well that's my experience at least.

necrofirei'd be interested in seeing how much amps the standard power adapter for these puts out.

4-port 2.0 powered hubs usually had 5v/1a power bricks, which is half of what it really should be.

Wonder if this comes with a 5v/1.8a adapter.

5v dc / 4a