Thursday, October 28th 2010
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Reference Design Graphics Card Pictured
Here are the first pictures of what is touted to be the GeForce GTX 580 reference design graphics card by NVIDIA, by sections of the Chinese media. There are some interesting inferences that can be drawn just by the looks of the card. To begin with the cooler bears an uncanny resemblance to one of the earliest design iterations of the GeForce GTX 480 (pictured here and here). In its final iteration, NVIDIA gave the GTX 480 a more massive cooler, perhaps to keep up with its finalized clock speeds. If the design of the GTX 580 cooler is anything to go by, it means that either NVIDIA refined the GF100 architecture in the GF110 (on which GTX 580 is based) a great deal, increasing performance per Watt; or that since GTX 580 is in its development stage, its final version could look different. GeForce GTX 580 is being designed as a counter to AMD's Radeon HD 6900 series single-GPU graphics cards that are based on the new Cayman graphics core, which is slated for release in late November. It is expected to be 20% faster than the GTX 480.
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PCinLife
213 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Reference Design Graphics Card Pictured
the overclocking potential depends a lot to the card temperature. for instance if you don't use watercooling you can't keep the 480 850/2100 daily use even in a highly ventilated case
I dont think Nvidia will make the same mistakes again. I figure the GTX 580 rumours could be summed up as:
GTX 580 will be more efficient than GTX 480, be slightly faster (20% optimum in selected benches) and have a reasonably effective cooling solution.
Got a bad feeling the HD 6970 might well be just as fast (or faster) but unless the core architecture is very different from 6870 it may be louder and hotter.
Hell, I'll buy the 6970 (if it's good enough) and if the 580 is substantially better - I'd then move up to that. But again, thats NV's major malfunction, people will buy 6970 in a month or so with no 580 for competition. And these folk wont shift from 6970 unless it's far inferior to the 580.
Roll on 28nm.
The GeForce GTX 580 is expected to release in November 2010,
Source of a source : vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-specifications-leaked/10184.html
oh, right, just read this part
"rumours suggest very limited to no availability on release, much like the GeForce GTX 470/480 release. "
I'm sorry i could not help myself, really there was yeild problems for both ATI and nvidia so both were having trouble keeping up with demand but of corse the effects of that would vary depending on where you are in the world and what company you buy from, in the uk scan normally had at least the sapphire 5970 in stock most of the time although i admit at times there was none of the board partners 5970's in stock.
But the GF100 launch was a little different to the 58xx cards as it was a paper lauch if im not mistaken (probably am :laugh:)
The ATI release was on time (stock was in shops fo release) but was very limited due to high demand versus TSMC yield nonsense. Wonder if GloFo will be better at 28nm?
May i also add, i will be very annoyed if they do a 'vague' release saying here's the card with full disclosure (NDA stuff all cool) yet the actual thing isn't available for weeks or months. That would be very bad mr Huang!
I'd like very much this chance to put both cards up against each other - that would be ace.
gtx580 is going to kick ass ati/amd, 128tmu's +512shaders that willl do the trick, only i think they should keep the 480 heatsink on it, it looks baddass
The look of disappointment on your face when you see how mediocre that card is going to be :laugh:
But seriously, this good for all. Perhaps at last, high end competition that should start a price war, sorry a price bitch slapping contest.
time will tell my friend
Unless nvidia screwed up somewhere I can't see with the 480 stock heat-sink, it is a better heat-sink than the 5870 sink.
It has a greater surface area, more heat-pipes and even has a "better" fan blowing on it.
the 480 is just hot :laugh:
to hell with money, I aint be bringing em when Im dead anyways :D, a hundred years from now, no one would care lol
As a non related example, Real Madrid have many of the word's top players and yet they were held by Murcia when they last played for the King's cup: better "components" (players) don't necessarily make a better "whole" (team).
I may be totally wrong but, has anyone proved either way?
comment 1: fermi is hoooooot
comment 2: MY fermi doesnt run hot! its only *insert temp here*
your fermi does run hot. its temperature is NOT related to the heat output of the card. you slap a bigger heatsink on, and it makes the GPU cooler by spreading the heat out, NOT by reducing how much heat is put out in the first place.
TL;DR: the heat is being dumped into your case, instead of staying on the GPU where its being read by the sensors. doesnt mean its not a hot card, just means you've moved to heat elsewhere for something else to deal with.
They definitely fixed the memory controller issue they had with the GTX470 and 480. Look how much higher the memory is 2000 (1000 give or take a few effective) thats like 4GHZ memory compared to the 3.3GHZX memory the 470 and 480 had. The memory bandwidth is huge!
Is the 128tmu's official??
But again, GF100 doesn't emit as much heat as expected is all i was saying.