Thursday, January 13th 2011
Bulldozer 50% Faster than Core i7 and Phenom II
Here, take some salt. AMD reportedly gave out performance figures in a presentation to its partners, performance figures seen by DonanimHaber. It is reported that an 8-core processor based on the "Bulldozer" high-performance CPU architecture is pitched by its makers to have 50% higher performance than existing processors such as the Core i7 950 (4 cores, 8 threads), and Phenom II X6 1100T (6 cores). Very little is known about the processor, including at what clock speed the processor was running at, much less what other components were driving the test machine.
Taking this information into account, the said Bulldozer based processor should synthetically even outperform Core i7 980X six-core, Intel's fastest desktop processor in the market. Built from ground-up, the Bulldozer architecture focuses on greater inter-core communication and reconfigured ALU/FPU to achieve higher instructions per clock cycle (IPC) compared to the previous generation K10.5, on which its current Phenom II series processors are based. The processor is backed by new 9-series core logic, and a new AM3+ socket. AMD is expected to unveil this platform a little later this year.
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DonanimHaber
Taking this information into account, the said Bulldozer based processor should synthetically even outperform Core i7 980X six-core, Intel's fastest desktop processor in the market. Built from ground-up, the Bulldozer architecture focuses on greater inter-core communication and reconfigured ALU/FPU to achieve higher instructions per clock cycle (IPC) compared to the previous generation K10.5, on which its current Phenom II series processors are based. The processor is backed by new 9-series core logic, and a new AM3+ socket. AMD is expected to unveil this platform a little later this year.
424 Comments on Bulldozer 50% Faster than Core i7 and Phenom II
Guys, we can't possibly know what they meant with that message they sent out to public. As far as I see it, it's got nothing with revealing true bulldozer performance, just pure marketing. A weapon used to start discussions like this one here, to get the people interested and program in their brains that bulldozer is coming, soon.
But if you read between lines, I'd say AMD has a good product coming. Think about it... one of biggest issue with AMD products has been lack of marketing, and when there was some, it was too passive and Intel marketing guys would run them over even if they had something inferior to work with.
So to see AMD stand up and say "Yes! We've got a fast product!" is a great thing all by itself, regardless how fast that product is. It means they are finally building up the confidence and spine to stand up to Intel who's been dominating the scene for the past few years, and we would all benefit from a few changes here and there.
If i were that person, I sure as hell wouldn't pass that info to say TPU without any proof for numbers, cause it wouldn't be published.
But from past experience, lots of that crap turns out to be true when that product is launched.
I'm not saying that this info is true or bs, I'm just saying it's better for us that they're writing in positive way, rather than negative.
I fear that bulldozer will be quite a bit fater than current amd chips, but like the 69XX series will be crushed by the even higher expectations placed on it by bad marketing. So the launch will be deemed a failure despite having a nice boost over previous gens.
I hate to say it, but Bulldozer is not the processor that will put AMD back on top.That is exactly what they said, no "mean" about it. In fact they said 50% faster than Intel's 4-core processors(the article says 50% faster than a i7 950), it just barely beats the current 6-cores on the market.
Now the Core i5 2300 2.8GHz gives equal or more performance than Core i7 950
Ive pretty much been an AMD Fanboi due to Intel's ridiculous amount of Platform changes However AMDs best chips are competing with stuff Intel released 2 years ago and now to go forward with AMD you have to go to a new Platform...
Yes you can use AM3 cpus on a AM3+ board but as far as Ive seen there isn't any other reason to upgrade to an AM3+ board unless your buying a AM3+ cpu.
So unless AMD can give some type of reason not to switch brands and fast as you have to do a Platform change I can't see any reason to stick with them...
As of now Intel has the best bang for the buck......
AMD needs to get something out and SOON or at the very least they need to get some samples out for review...
//end rant//
B. We are in quiet period so releasing data about upcoming products would be forbidden.
Don't get me wrong the K10 core was not bad, it had a 15-20% advantage over K8 at the same clock but it was just poorly implemented (big die for 65nm, lots of transistor leakage, weak OC-er TLB bug) and couldn't compete. I sure hope we're not in for another Phenom and that GloFo's 32nm process is healthy.
Benches!!!!!! PLSSSSSSS!!!!!
If you're low on funds as I am but would like to upgrade, this is perfect. I can now buy an AM3+ board to use my current cpu and later when more funds become available, get Bulldozer