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AMD Bulldozer, Llano Pricing Surface
Here are the first figures made public of the market prices of AMD's upcoming two lines of desktop processors. AMD will approach the desktop PC market with two platforms, the A-Series "Llano" accelerated processing units (APUs), and the FX-series "Zambezi" processors (CPUs). APUs are functionally similar to Intel's Sandy Bridge processors, in having processor cores, a graphics processor, memory controller, and PCI-Express switch packed into a single piece of silicon. AMD is apparently relying on its powerful GPU architecture to make Llano a more wholesome product. Zambezi functionally resembles Intel Westmere/Bloomfield, in having a number of processing cores, a high-bandwidth memory controller, and a large cache packed into a single die, making up for a performance part.
By mid-June, AMD will launch the FX-Series with two a 4-core, a 6-core, and two 8-core parts. The series will be led by eight-core AMD FX-8130P priced at US $320, trailed by FX-8130 at US $290. The former probably is a "unlocked" part. Next up is the six-core FX-6110, priced at $240. Lastly there's the quad-core FX-4110, going for $220. You will notice that the price per core isn't as linear as it was in the previous generation.
Around the same time as the FX-Series, AMD will launch its A-Series APUs, based on the brand new FM1 socket and single-chip chipset. The series is capped off by A8-3550P, which is an unlocked quad-core part priced at $170. Its "locked" variant, the A8-3550, will be priced $20 less, at $150. The A8 sub-series consists of quad-core parts with 400 stream processors enabled in the iGPU. Next up is the unlocked A6-3450P quad-core priced at $130, its locked counterpart, the A6-3450, is priced at $110. With A6 sub-series, the iGPU has 320 stream processors. At the bottom of the pile are dual-core parts, A4-3350P priced at $80, and E2-3350 at $70. The E2 sub-series has 240 stream processors on the iGPU. All prices in 1000-unit tray quantities.
Source:
DigiTimes
By mid-June, AMD will launch the FX-Series with two a 4-core, a 6-core, and two 8-core parts. The series will be led by eight-core AMD FX-8130P priced at US $320, trailed by FX-8130 at US $290. The former probably is a "unlocked" part. Next up is the six-core FX-6110, priced at $240. Lastly there's the quad-core FX-4110, going for $220. You will notice that the price per core isn't as linear as it was in the previous generation.
Around the same time as the FX-Series, AMD will launch its A-Series APUs, based on the brand new FM1 socket and single-chip chipset. The series is capped off by A8-3550P, which is an unlocked quad-core part priced at $170. Its "locked" variant, the A8-3550, will be priced $20 less, at $150. The A8 sub-series consists of quad-core parts with 400 stream processors enabled in the iGPU. Next up is the unlocked A6-3450P quad-core priced at $130, its locked counterpart, the A6-3450, is priced at $110. With A6 sub-series, the iGPU has 320 stream processors. At the bottom of the pile are dual-core parts, A4-3350P priced at $80, and E2-3350 at $70. The E2 sub-series has 240 stream processors on the iGPU. All prices in 1000-unit tray quantities.
80 Comments on AMD Bulldozer, Llano Pricing Surface
Come on 8130P, don't you dare disappoint!!
I was expecting to see stupid crazy prices similar to the last FX series with the 939 sockets.
one FETCH
one DECODE
one FPU
two Integer scheduler
one L2 Cache for module.
one L1 instruction cache
Same number of transistors with sandy 2600K
Yes , 8-core Bulldozer is a true 4-core chip with excellent HYPER TREADING technology !!! Not true 8-core !!
Bulldozer architecture is very elastic !! That is the power and secret for bulldozer ... 2x128bit FMAC or 1x256bit FMAC or 4x64bit !!!
Excited to see if it delivers, I don't want to replace all my servers in my datacenter, they are currently running amd cpu spec for clustering.
I use all my old gaming rigs for servers, and if the new is compatible with the old it'd be marvelous. :D
Like reasoning behind the Bulldozer core. Especially the fact that they share the FP pipe between two int pipes. It is also good to relieve most of the FP against many small cores in the future rather than running it in FAT-cores.
But again fetch decode can lead to greater latencies...
We all have to be patient and wait... and see..
there is alot amd can improve with this design in 2nd gen bulldozer when AM4 comes around. this design can probably do alot of magic!
less than a month!
i said octo-cores doesn't mean i really care about core counts. i'm just repeated the lines from what i've been read..
heck, since i already knew the prices. i'm sure i dont have a right anymore to complain about it :)
If people takes full advantage of the stream processors of Llano, will that cause Llano to take a massive lead in encoding and other massively parallel computing tasks compared to Bulldozer? I have a feeling that Bulldozer's days in consumer market are numbered even before launch due to Llano and Sandy Bridge.
But only theoretically as Fourstaff pointed out. :)
Midjune, mobo's come 19th-21th somewhere there. not long till ;)
It is only the leading edge of where this tech is going though, as we hit the limit of how small we can make a transistor and how many are required I believe it will take a large change in software and coding to take advantage of the next few major milestones in hardware progression. Memory, interface speed and fetching from datastores are the limiting factor. What good is 8 cores if we can't keep them fed data, what good are they when four have stalled? Higher clock speed will only help so much, and more cores does not directly relate to actual speed.
I truly hope AMD is working on the next, next tech and is using the CPU's they haven't sold to simulate the CPU and iron out the wrinkles.
@ fourstaff: but SNB doesn't support openCL. So it will take a while
ps.
it would be great if i could get an explanation as to why this is undesirable, if that is the case.
Llano is about bringing adequate performance for money, conveniently tucked into a nice single package (well and the PCH ;) ). It isn't nearly as powerful nor flexible as the combination of Bulldozer + whatever GPU you want is going to be.
Again, I hope I'm wrong. I want an all out war in the $1000 uber-cpu market.
But price/performance is not what I am concerned with. I am only concerned with performance per core per clock (and OC ability).
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
either way, it can be twisted to benefit the other company. Also, is the integer unit the main component in a CPU or something? if it is, they could pull some crazy twisted saying like "each of our core's is like 75% of intel's, however if you add it up, we have 600% performance and intel only 400%, that's 200% more processing power". the retard lines i can pull outa me ash, yet to the general public it'd fly:banghead:
Is the 8130P the highest end model of Bulldozer? And, will the release of these APUs lower the prices of current CPUs, Phenom and Athlon?