Wednesday, September 28th 2011

Electronic Arts' Massive 2012 $1.6m Battlefield 3 Tournament: Consoles Yes, PC No

While PC gamers are getting understandably excited about one of the year's biggest releases, which is guaranteed to have standards-setting graphics at least, there's a kick in the teeth waiting just around the corner. EA and Virgin Gaming have teamed up to launch a massive BF3 contest with $1.6m in cash and prizes - for consoles only. Yes, you read that right. And the reason? Consoles are the "gold standard". That's the aging console platforms reported on TechPowerUp a few days ago. GameStop's president Tony Bartel said in an interview with IndustryGamers:
We continue to believe that the console is a strong platform and will continue to be the gold standard.
The competition website excitingly states:
The biggest, most realistic, room-shaking FPS ever demands a tournament that will always be remembered," the contest's sign-up page brags. "That's why Virgin Gaming, and EA DICE have come together to bring you an online competition you'll be telling your grandkids about. So strap on your boots and check your magazine-when the spoils of war are this rich, you can bet things are gonna get messy.
That page then goes on to include links for PS3 & XBOX360 to register, but not the lowly PC. On top of that, it won't even be available on Steam, but gamers will instead have to sign up for the competing EA Origin platform.

This strategy appears to make no sense. Why spend all that money on developing the game only to alienate a massive market segment, even if it's perceived to not be as big as the console one? It will very likely sell massively well to PC gamers regardless, but wouldn't it have made even more dollars by not artificially restricting the competition like this? This goes to show the arrogance and contempt that some big companies show towards their customers and EA is no stranger to controversy, restrictive DRM issues being a major source.
Source: Maximum PC
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129 Comments on Electronic Arts' Massive 2012 $1.6m Battlefield 3 Tournament: Consoles Yes, PC No

#76
hknbeast
PS3 and XBOX360 ?????

I say only RETARDS play on CONSOLES..........................
Moving the guns like bunch of assholes and firing indefinitely.....shit they are retard to buy the console at the first place..................
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#77
Trackr
This kind of reminds me of Lost.

Why 1.6? Why not 1.7, 1.8?
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#78
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
hknbeastI say only RETARDS play on CONSOLES..........................
Moving the guns like bunch of assholes and firing indefinitely.....shit they are retard to buy the console at the first place..................
I strongly prefer the PC too and won't buy a console ever, but I don't think it's right to call console users retards.
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#79
brandonwh64
Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!
Once BF3 is fixed and working at least as good as BC2 is now then this will be a GREAT game. Yes the beta is buggy but it is the first time since the alpha that they can get to see how it will work fully with 10x more people that the alpha.
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#80
digibucc
brandonwh64Once BF3 is fixed and working at least as good as BC2 is now then this will be a GREAT game. Yes the beta is buggy but it is the first time since the alpha that they can get to see how it will work fully with 10x more people that the alpha.
truthfully i'm sick of this "beta is bugged" talk. not saying there are no issues, but have any of these people played on a real beta? and the idea that a MONTH left til release is not enough time to patch it up is equally ridiculous.

i highly, highly doubt that dice/ea will drop the ball on this one.
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#81
ThorAxe
I don't give a hoot about some pointless tournament.

There has already been a tournament for best BF3 platform and PC won it by a mile.
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#82
Rowsol
Shove your gold standard up your ass.
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#83
Animalpak
digibucci agree this is stupidity, but boycotting bf3 you are only losing out. there will be nowhere near enough of you boycotting to make any real difference. boycotting is good and all, i just think this cause itself is lost.

plus, it's important to recognize that DiCE is not EA and vice versa. publisher's are evil, DiCE is a good developer. stand by the few good developers in existence even if you have to deal with a crappy publisher or two.
:toast:


people who have a console in the eyes of EA are money because the majority is synonymous with high earnings, the PC community is a minority this does not carry money ...


I do not agree with the special or limited editions are useless, and that ugly big metal box in my shelf ruins everything.
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#85
digibucc
claylomaxDoes anybody feel... betrayed?
not in the slightest. it cost a LOT of money to make battlefield 3 and they deserve to milk it. the logistics of a pc game tournament are crazy difficult compared to a console match.

they gave me battlefield 3, built for pcs - i'll let em have a tournament i never would've participated in anyway.
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#86
cheesy999
digibuccnot in the slightest. it cost a LOT of money to make battlefield 3 and they deserve to milk it. the logistics of a pc game tournament are crazy difficult compared to a console match.

they gave me battlefield 3, built for pcs - i'll let em have a tournament i never would've participated in anyway.
same here

Dice are making a great game, it would've been better if it had been through a publisher that wasn't EA, but at the end of the day you get what your given, and i for one will be buying BF3 anyway because i don't care about a tournament, i play my games for Fun.

Has it occurred to anyone here consoles are the best platform for tournaments, because unlike PC's they are al the same, an no one's getting an advantage just because they can afford to spend 100's of £'s on mouse mats and gaming keyboards.

and now a large number of post's have appeared on this thread which, to be fair, seem to of been posting by people of limited intelligence, who can't spell and only want to insult console players (Example www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2410338&postcount=77). not realising a large amount of the people on these forums also play on consoles.

to the point, BF3 is a great game, and unlike COD, if they do want to make a little bit more money out of it, they have more then earned the right to do that
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#87
Shihab
claylomaxDoes anybody feel... betrayed?
People from sh*t holes for countries that are sanctioned by the US like me do. I just found out EA's blocking my damn country. ok WTF ? Why didn't you leave the game in Steam damn it ? Take your $s and rot in hell EA. :mad: :banghead: :shadedshu
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#88
erixx
claylomaxDoes anybody feel... betrayed?
Regarding the 'EARLY' Beta access for buyers of MOH, I do. Early ... 2 whole damn days early! That is worse than betrayel. It is rape.

Regarding a tournament for consoles, I really don't think about them or use them or know about them.
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#89
brandonwh64
Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!
I do not feel betrayed at all, I am disappointing with some of the decisions made when making the game such as Battlelog and such but I still think this game (once finally fixed) will be a great game
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#90
AsRock
TPU addict
Most realistic ?, in meaning of the BF series ?. Anyways they can shove EA Origin were it came from their asses.

As for the contest it's probably like that to limit cheating as you know cheating is less rampant on consoles.

In the end no harm done here to me as it wont be as realistic as i require.
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#91
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
RowsolShove your gold standard up your ass.
rofl :roll:
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#92
TUngsten
Dave63That is because they know the PC far superior and that would be unfair.
I bet that this is actually the case - by limiting the contest to consoles, they eliminate the possibility of high-end gaming rigs & equipment giving anyone an unfair advantage. I'm not really sure I agree with the concept, but it's possible.

Kind of a lowest-common-denominator hardware baseline, but definitely not a "gold standard" lol.
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#93
f22a4bandit
The Gold Standard console comment came from the GameStop president talking about CLOUD GAMING, not because of BF3. GameStop doesn't like to mention that Steam is miles ahead of them on digital release content.

A ton of sensationalism and overreaction on this thread. Qubit likes to post stories like he's part of the Penny Press of the late 1800s/early 1900s (not hating on you, Qubit ;)).
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#94
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
f22a4banditThe Gold Standard console comment came from the GameStop president talking about CLOUD GAMING, not because of BF3. GameStop doesn't like to mention that Steam is miles ahead of them on digital release content.

A ton of sensationalism and overreaction on this thread. Qubit likes to post stories like he's part of the Penny Press of the late 1800s/early 1900s (not hating on you, Qubit ;)).
I do like to add zest to my stories and report irreverently where appropriate and I hope my readers like it. :D So many stories I see on the internet have bog standard titles with bog standard, deadpan reporting styles. BORING! :rolleyes:

I don't think this one was over sensationalized though. I certainly think it's a bad, arrogant move to alienate PC gamers, treating them like they're second class citizens. :shadedshu My headline and reporting style reflect this sentiment.
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#95
buggalugs
Consoles is the gold standard of making money. That is all that matters to them, and its easier/quicker and cheaper to organise a console comp than a PC comp.
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#96
dank1983man420
f22a4banditThe Gold Standard console comment came from the GameStop president talking about CLOUD GAMING, not because of BF3. GameStop doesn't like to mention that Steam is miles ahead of them on digital release content.

A ton of sensationalism and overreaction on this thread. Qubit likes to post stories like he's part of the Penny Press of the late 1800s/early 1900s (not hating on you, Qubit ;)).
The competiton is held by Virgin gaming as well. They have been holding big tournaments like the BF3 one for a while now. They have always been for Xbox and PS3 only as well. This is 100% the reason PC gamers are not included. This contest requires you to join the virgin gaming network, which is a massive gaming online betting network. This BF3 tourny is just another tourney to them(just happens to be the biggest one though). Here is the homepage for the sitevirgingaming.com/. It clearly states only x box and ps3 can join the virgin gaming network. Why the pc's can't is up to Branson and his company to explain. If there's a pc version of some sort of some online betting site, then we can and should raise hell to EA/ Dice to support a contest for Us. But it has to be a major betting site if it's going to be a big of a payout, as the virgin one is part funded Richard Branson( along with the small fee the site gets for each bet as well I would think). Pretty much all I'm saying is that all EA/Dice did here is give the go ahead for Virgin gaming to do this massive contest. Of course they will support one of Branson's console gaming contests of their game(massive publicity)

I also did notice that the whole gold standard comment from the Gamestop dude and the and whole contest in general are two entirely unrealted stories and that most seem to be mixing them up as the same story.

No hate at all here toward anyone, I'm just seeing 5 pages of the same hating EA for the wrong reasons. There are obviously plenty of other things to hate EA about:toast:
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#97
[H]@RD5TUFF
It's really sad to see company's and shooter franchise's that made their bones and got where they are now on the back of PC gamers are now taking a collective dump on PC gamers all to dumb content down for the console kiddies.
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#98
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
i really don't see what all the crying is about. if you want in on the action go buy the console version. crying just makes you all look like whiny computer nerds who get pushed around by the jock console d-bags.
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#99
Ikaruga
Easy Rhino.....if you want in on the action go buy the console version......
Competitive multiplayer FPS on consoles?
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#100
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
well then don't complain.
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