[H]@RD5TUFFYour free to disagree all you wish, but not to invalidate. I know much of blizzard, as I have played EVERY title they have made, I am not acting in any manner other than an extremely angry customer, who god forbid expects value and a complete game for his money. . .:twitch::eek:

I harbor no hatred, just anger, you seem all to eager to accuse others of ignorance, when you yourself spew nothing but. That said you are free to your opinions, but perhaps you should judge yourself more and others less.

I am angry at blizzard for the unmitigated gawl to peddle half finished games at the price of full games. The price should reflect the content level! People will continue to pirate their games, and I hope it ends them.

Your entire post is full of ridicule and hypocrisy. I as well have played EVERY Blizzard game to date and have never once felt cheated. Tell me, when was the last time they released a DLC? That's right, never. Patches? Sure. Expansions? Sure. Both of which have been part of PC gaming for a LONG time. So please, take the time to re-evaluate yourself.

mrw1986Bethesda seems to be doing just fine. I'm sure there will be DLC, but Skyrim is pretty damned awesome without it. They also allow modding. Maybe you should rethink PC gaming because you seem to have very little knowledge of it. What one or two companies do does not shape the entire culture of PC gaming.

Please use the multiquote button...... double posting is so last year!

digibuccclearly you know nothing of Activision.

Tatty_OnePlease use the multiquote button...... double posting is so last year!

digi, I know more than enough about Activision/Kotick and their shittiness.

Sorry Tatty, that post didn't come to mind until a few minutes later :laugh:

cadavecaI just want coop so my wife and I can play together liek the previous Diablo titles. PvP is NOT required.

And I'm more than willing to wait. I'd rather wait for Blizzard, and Rush Valve and HL3/EP.3.

So maybe we will not to have to password all our games now unlike in D2 always some lame ass PvP person to spoil a good game..

In fact more i think about it more i like it lol.

And WTF are people on about 1/2 done because no PvP on release.

AsRockAnd WTF are people on about 1/2 done because no PvP on release.

I wish I knew AsRock, I wish I knew...:toast:

mrw1986Your entire post is full of ridicule and hypocrisy. I as well have played EVERY Blizzard game to date and have never once felt cheated. Tell me, when was the last time they released a DLC? That's right, never. Patches? Sure. Expansions? Sure. Both of which have been part of PC gaming for a LONG time. So please, take the time to re-evaluate yourself.

Then you didn't pay much attention to SC2, as it's missing 2/3 of the single player story. A "patch" is technically DLC. FAIL much ?

Just the opposite, I purchased Diablo 2, Warcraft 3 and Starcraft plus all expansions and never once felt I didn't get my moneys worth. In fact they still update and fully support games that are 15 years old, I love them for that.

PVP is not the main focus of D3 but will be a welcome addition, WOW did not release with battlegrounds but you did world pvp instead. I played on sargeras and Southshore vs. Tauren Mill was the best pvp area ever :P.

I think they are making these decisions to get the game out relatively "soon". The co-op will be so much fun I'll wait for the polished PvP system.

[H]@RD5TUFFI will be one of them, I'm not buy half a game, same reason I didn't buy SC2.



It's not about don't like, I will not accept paying $60 for HALF OF A GAME! It's beyond unacceptable FUCK BLIZZARD!

Wow calm the fuck down. Its only half a game for a month or so. Besides, who the hell is going to be pvping at level 1? Get over yourself. Also, they counted give two shits for a fuck about you not buying their game.

CrAsHnBuRnXpWow calm the fuck down. Its only half a game for a month or so. Besides, who the hell is going to be pvping at level 1? Get over yourself. Besides, they coudlnt give two shits for a fuck about you not buying their game.

Well put :) I just think someone's a little butthurt.

[H]@RD5TUFFA "patch" is technically DLC. FAIL much ?

I love how you change your tune. You don't pay for patches. Ever. DLC? Sure, sometimes it's free. Typically, you have to pay.

[H]@RD5TUFFYour free to disagree all you wish, but not to invalidate. I know much of blizzard, as I have played EVERY title they have made, I am not acting in any manner other than an extremely angry customer, who god forbid expects value and a complete game for his money. . .:twitch::eek:

I harbor no hatred, just anger, you seem all to eager to accuse others of ignorance, when you yourself spew nothing but. That said you are free to your opinions, but perhaps you should judge yourself more and others less.

I am angry at blizzard for the unmitigated gawl to peddle half finished games at the price of full games. The price should reflect the content level! People will continue to pirate their games, and I hope it ends them.

Youll end up getting the full game for free in the very near future. What is so hard to comprehend about that? So youll end up paying for the full game anyway.

[H]@RD5TUFFA "patch" is technically DLC. FAIL much ?

Lol. Ok now youre trolling or you really are that ignorant. You dont pay for patches. If you have ever paid for a patch, then you need to find a way to get a refund. So you sir, FAIL hard.

CrAsHnBuRnXpYoull end up getting the full game for free in the very near future. What is so hard to comprehend about that? So youll end up paying for the full game anyway.

Don't waste your time arguing with him, you'll have a better chance yelling at the wall closest to you.

Wow it's a real blizzard in here :rolleyes:

Diablo is, fundamentally, not a PvP game. That has always just been an addition (and sometimes hack) to it, not the main point. Battlenet is basically an add-on to a Diablo game. The pure game is not about killing other players. Maybe some of you aren't old enough to know what the Diablo games are about, and the tradition of gaming prior to everything being about multiplayer 'murder'.

InceptorDiablo is, fundamentally, not a PvP game. That has always just been an addition (and sometimes hack) to it, not the main point. Battlenet is basically an add-on to a Diablo game. The pure game is not about killing other players. Maybe some of you aren't old enough to know what the Diablo games are about, and the tradition of gaming prior to everything being about multiplayer 'murder'.

This. Story and treasure hunting were the best part of the Diablo series.

Geeze what's all this pointless rage about? So Diablo III is going to be released sooner missing a very small part of the game, so what? It's not like they have axed the feature altogether...

DIII isn't a CoD game and there won't be a DLC for a major feature such as PVP. The patch will be released in due course and we will get to play D3 at the announced release day without a buggy, half-baked PVP system. I really don't see what the problem is....

[H]@RD5TUFFA "patch" is technically DLC. FAIL much ?

This statement is full of so much fail I don't even know where to begin....

Blizzard already said dont get your hopes up to much about D3 so..maybe this was one of things they were talking about.

i understand now....

the people who expect a game to be released complete, with a full feature set are the assholes - and the apologists who simply say "it's no big deal, at least we GET a diablo 3" are the good guys.

whatever reasoning you put behind it, you are still defending them because they have done something that requires defense. they have decided to release incomplete software in order to meet a release date. does that sound like the blizzard we all love? no. it sounds like activision.

if this were the first bad news in regards to d3, it would be nothing - but it's the latest in a line of announcements that have left me underwhelmed for the game. i never ever imagined i would be saying that but it's the truth. I put more hours individually into d1 and d2 than any other game or game series. they made me a gamer, but i will be (pleasantly) surprised if d3 brings back that feeling. Activision has taken over :(

digibucci understand now....

the people who expect a game to be released complete, with a full feature set are the assholes - and the apologists who simply say "it's no big deal, at least we GET a diablo 3" are the good guys.

whatever reasoning you put behind it, you are still defending them because they have done something that requires defense. they have decided to release incomplete software in order to meet a release date. does that sound like the blizzard we all love? no. it sounds like activision.

Exactly, but prepare to called a hypocrite for having the audasity to use logic and point that out. I have just given up attempting to explain my position, as the saying goes never argue with an idiot they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!:D

[H]@RD5TUFF...never argue with an idiot they will drag you down to their level and beat you with "experience"!:D

Fixed. I couldn't have said it better, thank you ;)

[H]@RD5TUFFI am angry at blizzard for the unmitigated gawl to peddle half finished games at the price of full games. The price should reflect the content level! People will continue to pirate their games, and I hope it ends them.

Who says it won't? Sure, they aren't releasing the pvp aspect at launch, but the single player may well be worth more than $60 in terms of content level. We won't know until reviews start coming out.

yeah i don't care so much about the price part , as the rest will be free when it's ready - what i don't like is that it's an action that screams "we want money now" which sounds like activision, not blizzard.

[H]@RD5TUFFas the saying goes never argue with an idiot they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!:D

Indeed, you appear to be quite the expert. Blizzard have always been known for their patches, free ones at that, hell I remember D2 before the synergy system was added, changed things dramatically; dark times before that was released.

Wait a sec. Let me ask something here..isn't this D3 supposed to be online-only, much like WoW?

Is that how the PvP stuff works? I don't fully understand.

And if that's the case, then delay of PvP servers, well, makes sense to me. Heck, if htere's monthly fees on this, I'm nto gonna buy anyway, so really, that is the critical peice of info I need, and the rest is just idle chatter until that info comes.

cadavecaWait a sec. Let me ask something here..isn't this D3 supposed to be online-only, much like WoW?

Is that how the PvP stuff works? I don't fully understand.

And if that's the case, then delay of PvP servers, well, makes sense to me. Heck, if htere's monthly fees on this, I'm nto gonna buy anyway, so really, that is the critical peice of info I need, and the rest is just idle chatter until that info comes.

It is going to be online only just like WoW to help prevent the hackerfest that is known as Diablo 2.

What i dont understand is how people are flying off the handle about a game that is mainly single-player. As for the monthly fees, Im unsure.

yeah, i'm only concerned with the monthly fee side of things. I cannot buy titles that require recurring payment, just personal choice.