I always wait to buy a new card anyways. Actually, my GTX 480 does everything at Max res still. Ill wait until it blows up before I buy a new series.

eidairaman1is what? Kindly Inform us if you can please because what Wizzard is saying is pretty truthful

Having trouble with the English language ?

Me]so [B][U][COLOR="Redeither[/COLOR][/U][/B] your assumption that the U.S. stock situation is no worse than the EU's is false, or your assumption that there have been no sales other than those of launch day is (false)

Not sure what Wizzard has to do with my statement tbh :shadedshu ,so...
1.Please point me towards Wizz's post/article saying that there has been no GTX 680 sales since launch day, or
2.Please point me towards Wizz's post/article saying that the U.S. is receiving less GTX 680 stock on a per capita basis than the EU.

Yo_WattupnVidia president: "okay everyone! heres the 690! we only have a dozen or so... and theyve been sold, but weve launched them!"

That's pretty much the scenario with duallie's in general. Drip feed enough into the channel to claim a current flagship SKU*, without having to incur a lower profit margin (against two single GPU cards), or have to worry about extra expense in binning GPU's especially for a dual card. You ever see excess stock of GTX 590, HD 6990 ? The HD 5970 wasn't exactly plentiful during it's production run either. A good indicator is how many AIB's actually release (and keep stocked) a dual card in the channel.
* As a current SKU it warrants inclusion in any graphics card review comparison/roundup. An exercise in ongoing PR for minimal expenditure.

Yo_WattupSeriously though theres plenty of 680s for sale down here in Australia, of all places

Yeah, no real shortage here in the Shaky Isles either- tho' GST takes the fun out of frivolous component buying.

Read the last part of your message here dipstick.

I would assume that if any of the links move from "in stock" to "pre-order" that sales are being made...so either your assumption that the U.S. stock situation is no worse than the EU's is false, or your assumption that there have been no sales other than those of launch day is

www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2606904&postcount=47


You say I have trouble with English? Go back to school kid :nutkick:

HumanSmokeHaving trouble with the English language ?


Not sure what Wizzard has to do with my statement tbh :shadedshu ,so...
1.Please point me towards Wizz's post/article saying that there has been no GTX 680 sales since launch day, or
2.Please point me towards Wizz's post/article saying that the U.S. is receiving less GTX 680 stock on a per capita basis than the EU.


That's pretty much the scenario with duallie's in general. Drip feed enough into the channel to claim a current flagship SKU, without having to incur a lower profit margin (against two single GPU cards), or have to worry about extra expense in binning GPU's especially for a dual card. You ever see excess stock of GTX 590, HD 6990 ? The HD 5970 wasn't exactly plentiful during it's production run either. A good indicator is how many AIB's actually release (and keep stocked) a dual card in the channel.

The teaser shows the back cover.

eidairaman1Read the last part of your message here dipstick.

You seem to suffering from a deep seated form of brain disease. How about you get your caregiver to read and explain the link: www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2606904&postcount=47 you're having trouble parsing. It's fine, I'll wait.....
Three points made:
1

MeI would assume that if any of the links move from "in stock" to "pre-order" that sales are being made

Common sense ?
2

Meso either your assumption that the U.S. stock situation is no worse than the EU's is false...

...as counterpoint (along with the links to in stock GTX 680's) to:

CasecutterSomeone’s high if they think Nvidia has given everything to EU and short changed North America

3
Linkto senior forum member who got his cards after launch and his initial order was unable to be fulfilled, and:

Me...or your assumption that there have been no sales other than those of launch day is

...in counterpoint to:

CasecutterWhile in the USA I don't believe there's been any GTX680's sold since the few that sold-out in just hours after release

Now we have the remedial comprehension section of the post out of the way...
Where are the post(s) supposedly made by Wizzard (as asserted by you) that directly contradict points 1, 2 and 3, or has alzheimers (see below) robbed you of the power to post links ?

eidairaman1You say I have trouble with English?

Not just English, but comprehension also.

eidairaman1Go back to school kid :nutkick:

Haven't been called kid for twenty years or more, unless you count some septuagenarian alzheimers sufferers from the local veterans centre.

Another forumtard who's afflicted by the "post count equates to intelligence/seniority" delusion I'm guessing. "Stationed in Florida" ? Which clothes store window ? (/thats for the dipstick crack)

just how many FPS do you need to play console ports?

Sit down Rhino, we have a good old fashioned flame war on our hands. :pimp:

Now I know why we still have lots of GTX 680's in-stock in Australia, bloody high prices! If anyone needs a 680 from overseas, you're welcome to buy our ones. Just expect to pay ~$700AUD.

Looking forward for the dual-gpu Nvidia card and we will see how AMD will react.

I think we are all going to be dissapointed when it is a GTX670.

AthlonX2I think we are all going to be dissapointed when it is a GTX670.

img.techpowerup.org/120419/snip.png

Coudln't have said it better myself. I knew that the GTX 680 was going to be epic, but what about the GTX 670, that's the question. Will it be on par with the 7870 or a 7850? If the 690 is better that the 7990, somebody is going to shit bricks...

OneCoolHow about the 7990?

no word from amd on that either

i can't afford one not 2 lol so that is

HumanSmokeWhere are the post(s) supposedly made by Wizzard (as asserted by you)

About 9 posts prior to mine... :wtf:

HumanSmokeLink to senior forum member who got his cards after launch and his initial order was unable to be fulfilled, and:

You mean LNCPapa? He posted a picture of his two upon getting them, Mar 26, 2012. Yes Egg had fluctuating supplies after the March 22nd release, and after much frustration appears he ordered between the 23-24th!

Thanks for backing my comment, though I said "sold-out in just hours after release" I suppose 48-72 hours where days, however that appears only after camping out on Newegg did his persistence bears fruit, while let's remember lots of other did that and came away with... nada, and still today wait for Email from Egg indicating they have stock. Again once those original Nvidia controlled reference boards got through the channel it was over here in the USA. If Nvidia and AIB are moving product in the EU good for those folks, but in my world it’s still just vaporware!
:D

CasecutterThanks for backing my comment, though I said "sold-out in just hours after release" I suppose 48-72 hours where days

Well, technically I suppose 648 hours after launch is still "hours" (unless you class forum members at various hw sites liars) so, technically you're right and always will be so long as days/weeks/months can be expressed as hours.....technically
[Random forum thread]

CasecutterAgain once those original Nvidia controlled reference boards got through the channel it was over here in the USA.

I believe the comment I was disputing wasn't "those original Nvidia controlled reference boards", it was:

CasecutterWhile in the USA I don't believe there's been any GTX680's sold since the few that sold-out in just hours after release.

The original premise you made is an absolute, the new position is conditional...Working on the assumption that it's harder to hit a moving target ?

To reiterate:
No one is disputing that supply is very constrained. What I am disputing is that GTX 680 supply in the U.S. is zero (your original assertion- and the assertion I replied to)

Your second assertion was that the EU was no better served in supply than the U.S.
The fact that stock is available in the EU (as I showed earlier) -as is it in many other countries-mine included- obviously means that either:
1. Pricing or other economic factors are playing a role in keeping these cards on the shelves in countries not called the U.S.A. (unlikely given the amount of people posting their new cards), or
2. Demand in the U.S. exceeds that of other countries, or
3. Your assumption is wrong and the rest of the world is being better supplied than the U.S.

Which is the most likely scenario ? Do you see a fourth option ?

HumanSmoke648 hours

What do you mean the posts indicates the picture was add March 26th, how are you figuring 27 days?

Oh your argument is just over semantics, fine you win! ;)

#4 - Nvidia went with TSMC 28Nm HkMG process and its' killing them. :rolleyes:

Hi There... My name is GTX 690 :D :D :D



Source: www.inpai.com.cn/doc/hard/171400.htm

It seems a big puppy, let's hope Nvidia doesn't screw up with VRM and/or fixed voltage ceiling.

CasecutterWhat do you mean the posts indicates the picture was add March 26th, how are you figuring 27 days?

CasecutterOh your argument is just over semantics

Nope -although at this point I suspect you're more about obfuscation and trolling than making an argument...

CasecutterWhile in the USA I don't believe there's been any GTX680's sold since the few that sold-out in just hours after release

...so the options are:
Believe the random internet guy, or...
Believe the interwebs tech forums, verified ownership reviews for cards that have only recently been added to the channel (such as this, and this), and note supply on the shelves in the three countries I checked -namely the UK, NZ and Aus...given that you say that the rest of the world is no better served with GTX 680 stock than the U.S.

So if I'm looking for a reliable indicator is it random internet guy or an annotated collection of multiple verifiable sources ?

Casecutterfine you win! ;)

It's not about "winning", it's about asserting a proposition and backing that proposition with proof. It's about imparting information. If you see posting on a forum as a competition then I can see why you just keep dancing around. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Gift from nV, received by HH.. so this means?!..

NHKSGift from nV, received by HH.. so this means?!..

i.imgur.com/mEGDc.jpg

For use in case of zombies or....angry moms. They'll probably bundle that with GTX 690 for their SeriousGamers™.

HumanSmokeTo reiterate:
No one is disputing that supply is very constrained. What I am disputing is that GTX 680 supply in the U.S. is zero (your original assertion- and the assertion I replied to)

Your second assertion was that the EU was no better served in supply than the U.S.
The fact that stock is available in the EU (as I showed earlier) -as is it in many other countries-mine included- obviously means that either:
1. Pricing or other economic factors are playing a role in keeping these cards on the shelves in countries not called the U.S.A. (unlikely given the amount of people posting their new cards), or
2. Demand in the U.S. exceeds that of other countries, or
3. Your assumption is wrong and the rest of the world is being better supplied than the U.S.

Hi, i'm going with a combiantion of higher demand in the U.S., with low supply.
While supply is not zero, it's pretty close to that.
Newegg
NCIX
TigerDirect -- 1 card at $623 (low supply or high demand? maybe both)
Amazon -- 3 vendors with ultra low supply. Price: $680 (only a hardcore nvi fan will buy at that price)

HumanSmokeYour premise is that no GTX 680 has been sold in the U.S. since launch day and that EU can't be any better ? Someone's high alright.
[Random timestamped U.S.forum member post]

We'll not sure were you grabbed the screen shot because when I click you link above that you provided it takes me to a totally different looking page in some TechSpot.com page, not anything like that black background and and red breaks. That must be why there's a diconnect?

www.techspot.com/community/topics/nvidia-reclaims-performance-crown-with-geforce-gtx-680.178995/page-3

I'm not here to figure it out!