Tatty_OneNot yet but lets all play nice :rolleyes:

Thank You Sir. :respect:

tricksonThank You Sir. :respect:

I think you need a hug (as do I) :toast:

cdawalli think you need a hug (as do i) :toast:

Yes I do. :D

well i have to say this thread went oddly pair shaped eh, oh hi trickson:p

isnt haswell supposed to have an interposer with(128-256Mb) L4 cache on it for the Gt123 gfxs, surely that will bring some performance,and in the department intel needs some most at the min, im not expecting any big performance leaps from intel untill someone catches their coat tails on x86 code and im not seeing great leaps in haswell, all my own opinions.

theoneandonlymrkisnt haswell supposed to have an interposer with(128-256Mb) L4 cache on it for the Gt123 gfxs, surely that will bring some performance,and in the department intel needs some most at the min, im not expecting any big performance leaps from intel untill someone catches their coat tails on x86 code and im not seeing great leaps in haswell, all my own opinions.

Haswell is rumored to have a small last level cache (not level 4,) that will use DRAM on an interposer. It won't be that big, I won't expect it to be any larger than 32Mb. Haswell isn't slated to have amazing performance benefits (with the exception of graphics, once again. See what Intel is doing here?) Putting the voltage regulators on the CPU will help save power but might contribute to heat.

If anything, I'm a lot more interested to see what IVB-E will bring to the table than Haswell.

Aquinus+1: I've owned a Celeron, P4 2.67 & 630, C2D E6600, and my i7 3820 made by Intel. I've also owned an Athlon 64 3700+ and a phenom ii 940, so I've been predominantly an Intel guy, however, the Athlon 64 3700+ (San Diego) was one of the best single core machines I've used and the 940 is one of the fastest DDR2 machines I've ever used, all while not breaking the bank. When I have money to blow (or want to blow,) I will go with whatever is better, otherwise price is the deciding factor.

With all of that said, I loved using the 940. The 3820 is by far better, but then again I would hope so. :banghead:

well look at how many years difference there is between when AM2 Launched and when 1155/2011 launched

AquinusHaswell is rumored to have a small last level cache (not level 4,) that will use DRAM on an interposer. It won't be that big, I won't expect it to be any larger than 32Mb. Haswell isn't slated to have amazing performance benefits (with the exception of graphics, once again. See what Intel is doing here?) Putting the voltage regulators on the CPU will help save power but might contribute to heat.

If anything, I'm a lot more interested to see what IVB-E will bring to the table than Haswell.

since its lessons learned from 1155 we hoping. ya 2011 is the platform to go for HEDT applications.

eidairaman1well look at how many years difference there is between when AM2 Launched and when 1155/2011 launched

since its lessons learned from 1155 we hoping. ya 2011 is the platform to go for HEDT applications.

AM2+, the 940 was also a 45nm Deneb processor. It is just like all the other Phenom IIs, it just is limited to DDR2.

Oh yeah, got to love skt2011. skt1155 isn't bad, but 2011 offers a lot. :cool:

AquinusAM2+, the 940 was also a 45nm Deneb processor. It is just like all the other Phenom IIs, it just is limited to DDR2.

Oh yeah, got to love skt2011. skt1155 isn't bad, but 2011 offers a lot. :cool:
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ok when you mention 940 im thinking of Athlon 64 FX/Opteron

Even though I know AM2/+ is 940 Pins too (layout is different) (AM3 CPUs work, AM3+ CPUs dont work)

AM3 being 941 Pins (AM2 CPUs Wont work, AM3+ CPUs work)
AM3+ being 942 Pins (AM2 CPUs Wont work)

eidairaman1ok when you mention 940 im thinking of Athlon 64 FX/Opteron

The Athlon 64 3700+ is socket skt939, not skt940. Same stock cooling bracket, slightly different socket, just like every revision AMD has made since. I actually still have that board and processor downstairs with 2gb of DDR-400. I just don't have a place or use for it atm.

At the time I liked the 3700+ because the San Diego core had 1Mb of L2 as opposed to all of the dual-cores and other single cores that only had 512Kb per core. Good clocker, good temps. In general it was a great CPU at the time.

I chose buying a 3820 for a number of reasons and one of them was the 10Mb L3 over the i7 lineup on 1155 which stops at 8Mb for a quad-core. Also the 3820 and 3960x has 2.5Mb of L3 per core, where the 3930k has only 2Mb L3 per core.

AquinusThe Athlon 64 3700+ is socket skt939, not skt940. Same stock cooling bracket, slightly different socket, just like every revision AMD has made since. I actually still have that board and processor downstairs with 2gb of DDR-400. I just don't have a place or use for it atm.

Yes I know about all of this

754/940- Single Channel Athlon 64/Dual Channel Athlon 64 FX/Opteron

939 Consolidated Athlon 64/FX/Opteron to Dual channel spec, replaced both 754/940 in consumer market. 940 remained in server market

AM2/+ DDR 2 Athlon/Athlon II/ Phenom/ Phenom II

AM3/+ DDR 3 Athlon II, Phenom II, FX

How did this become an AMD thread?

tricksonHow did this become an AMD thread?

Amd?....... Oh they live next door. Theyre having a big comming out party......they came over to borrow a stick of WIN and a cup of AWESOME;)

ensabrenoirAmd?....... Oh they live next door. Theyre having a big comming out party......they came over to borrow a stick of WIN and a cup of AWESOME;)

Oh, well all we can spare is a cup of Shut and up. :twitch: LOL.

LOL. Funny reading indeed! Intel's fanboys vs AMD fanboys readings are almost as good as nVidia vs ATI readings, haha! Keep going guys!

AquinusAt the time I liked the 3700 because the San Diego core had 1Mb of L2 as opposed to all of the dual-cores and other single cores that only had 512Kb per core. Good clocker, good temps. In general it was a great CPU at the time.

Well thats wrong





All of those have 2mb L2's

cdawallWell thats wrong

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All of those have 2mb L2's

I stand corrected. I missed those. Whoops. :nutkick:
They might not have been out at the time. It has been a while man, I'm trying to do this from memory.

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