Yeah I don't like IE9 but crashes/freezes isn't a issue, some people need to stop accusing a program when it's the computer's fault.

In my case none browsers crash rarerly beta alpha versions. And I am using Opera 12.10 beta as default and rock solid, same as Chrome Canary, Firefox Nightly and IE9 and IE10 in Win 8

I have had IE 9 crash on me before, but it was my fault:(
I have always used IE browsers and will continue to do so. I have not used Chrome nor FF so I cannot say how well they work. I am just lazy (and accepting) when it comes to my internet browser.

SvarogIf it has the same layout as IE9 ill stick with IE8.

I want Tabs below the Toolbar and Favorite Button on the left.

I do agree with this statement. I too was annoyed that you couldn't change the layout...

Rawhuh? what are you talking about? Crashes????

I have never had a crash with IE9...ever.
And I use it on 4 pcs.

I have to what are some of you people doing &*???...that's what amazes me.
People may or may not like the layout or the colors, etc. but crashes? Not over here in these parts.

And it's fast too. As fast as any other browser I tried. (FF, Chrome):twitch:

eidairaman1Ive had FF crash and even Chrome fail before, not as near as what Opera ever did. IE ive yet to have any fails with

Derek12Yeah I don't like IE9 but crashes/freezes isn't a issue, some people need to stop accusing a program when it's the computer's fault.

In my case none browsers crash rarerly beta alpha versions. And I am using Opera 12.10 beta as default and rock solid, same as Chrome Canary, Firefox Nightly and IE9 and IE10 in Win 8

So because you haven't experienced it, that makes it impossible, and I must be lying . . . apparently Steve Jobs's reality distortion field moved to M$, and is alive and well.:shadedshu

That said if ya'll had bothered to read earlier in the thread, I stated why I believe it happens, regardless of if I am right or wrong about the how, the fact is it happens, and attempting to blame people for the flaws of software is just petty and pathetic.:shadedshu

[H]@RD5TUFFSo because you haven't experienced it, that makes it impossible, and I must be lying . . . apparently Steve Jobs's reality distortion field moved to M$, and is alive and well.:shadedshu

That said if ya'll had bothered to read earlier in the thread, I stated why I believe it happens, regardless of if I am right or wrong about the how, the fact is it happens, and attempting to blame people for the flaws of software is just petty and pathetic.:shadedshu

Well I've read everything and I agree with fourstaff that you need a better IT department. There might be issues with certain browsers but it's their job to fix it. The point is it's as much the devs fault as IE's fault. People have the same experiences with all browsers. If it's only a certain page that fails, is it [insert developer name here] fault or the site itself? If a certain program makes Windows crash, is MS to blame or the developer of the program?

And I can't understand why people argue and get upset about browser choices. At this point it's down to personal preferences. Me I use Firefox because I'm used to it.

FrickWell I've read everything and I agree with fourstaff that you need a better IT department. There might be issues with certain browsers but it's their job to fix it. The point is it's as much the devs fault as IE's fault. People have the same experiences with all browsers. If it's only a certain page that fails, is it [insert developer name here] fault or the site itself? If a certain program makes Windows crash, is MS to blame or the developer of the program?

And I can't understand why people argue and get upset about browser choices. At this point it's down to personal preferences. Me I use Firefox because I'm used to it.

I don't get upset at personal preference, I do get upset at people not bothering to follow the progression of a conversation, then jumping in a conversation with a butt hurt tone, and telling you the problem is your fault, that it can't possibly be the fault of the software because they haven't had that issue . . . :shadedshu

I explained why I continue to use Fire Fox, primarily for gesture control, atm neither IE, Chrome has a solution that works as well.

I simply despise repeating myself, because someone didn't take the time to understand what was said.

Now having said that, I do tend to agree it's the issue of the school and my old place of work, more than IE, but that doesn't make browser not crash, the fact is it crashes frequently when accessing specific content. So it is an issue for me.

Man all this because people take issue with people sharing their experiences that aren't the same as theirs so they must be wrong.:shadedshu:shadedshu:shadedshu:shadedshu

I didn't mean you get upset, just people in general. And yeah people did jump in on that discussion. :)

[H]@RD5TUFFNope, brand new installation, and I have checked there are no registry errors or anything of that nature.

I find it funny how the M$ faithful will grasp at any straw to attempt to shift blame away from M$ products.

I find it funny when people blame the dog when it drinks anti-freeze.

[H]@RD5TUFFI don't get upset at personal preference, I do get upset at people not bothering to follow the progression of a conversation, then jumping in a conversation with a butt hurt tone, and telling you the problem is your fault, that it can't possibly be the fault of the software because they haven't had that issue . . . :shadedshu

I explained why I continue to use Fire Fox, primarily for gesture control, atm neither IE, Chrome has a solution that works as well.

I simply despise repeating myself, because someone didn't take the time to understand what was said.

Now having said that, I do tend to agree it's the issue of the school and my old place of work, more than IE, but that doesn't make browser not crash, the fact is it crashes frequently when accessing specific content. So it is an issue for me.

Man all this because people take issue with people sharing their experiences that aren't the same as theirs so they must be wrong.:shadedshu:shadedshu:shadedshu:shadedshu

Sites being poorly coded is not MS or IE fault. IE doesn't have a stability issue. You stated your opinion as fact, this is why you are getting into an argument. IE is 100% stable.

[H]@RD5TUFFSo because you haven't experienced it, that makes it impossible, and I must be lying . . . apparently Steve Jobs's reality distortion field moved to M$, and is alive and well.:shadedshu

That said if ya'll had bothered to read earlier in the thread, I stated why I believe it happens, regardless of if I am right or wrong about the how, the fact is it happens, and attempting to blame people for the flaws of software is just petty and pathetic.:shadedshu

Lying != wrong assumption

And I blame the computer not people.

Google "Firefox Crashes" "Chrome crashes" "Opera crashes" "Safari crashes" "IE crashes" and draw conclusions. Then all browsers are crap because they crashes on some computers "without any reason", right? :shadedshu

Or go and make a poll asking if IE9 is stable or not. Then it would be a better metric to outright say that "IE9 is crap and M$ is the bad" instead of "I have some issue in my computer or in "X" website badly coded that makes IE9 to crash.

I had crashes in Windows 7 even on clean installs on "perfectly fine hardware", should I say outright "LOLOL Window$ 7 suckz and M$ is crap and doesn't know how to make a OS??????? (not refering to anyone here in particular) We are rational


If there's a day all browsers or OS are 100% crash safe on all PCs, then we will have found the immortality.

TheMailMan78I find it funny when people blame the dog when it drinks anti-freeze.



Sites being poorly coded is not MS or IE fault. IE doesn't have a stability issue. You stated your opinion as fact, this is why you are getting into an argument. IE is 100% stable.

FALSE you wish to debate why it crashes rather than acknowledging the simple fact it crashes, thus it is not 100% stable please GTFO KTHXBAI.

Derek12Lying != wrong assumption

And I blame the computer not people.

Google "Firefox Crashes" "Chrome crashes" "Opera crashes" "Safari crashes" "IE crashes" and draw conclusions. Then all browsers are crap because they crashes on some computers "without any reason", right? :shadedshu

Or go and make a poll asking if IE9 is stable or not. Then it would be a better metric to outright say that "IE9 is crap and M$ is the bad" instead of "I have some issue in my computer or in "X" website badly coded that makes IE9 to crash.

I had crashes in Windows 7 even on clean installs on "perfectly fine hardware", should I say outright "LOLOL Window$ 7 suckz and M$ is crap and doesn't know how to make a OS??????? (not refering to anyone here in particular) We are rational


If there's a day all browsers or OS are 100% crash safe on all PCs, then we will have found the immortality.

I never once said that it "sucks" or that IE9 was "crap" only that I have experienced issues with it, and you and the ban stick dummy refuse to accept that.


I'm done debating, and playing semantics, with people that want to blindly ignore reality, I've stated what has happened, explained why, and generally agreed with ya'll and you will not take yes for an answer. Please learn to listen before telling people you know that their wrong and that there to dumb to know it. :nutkick:

I was just sharing my input on this issue too, it was reverse for myself. Only thing that is driving me batty is im having to use a older version of Flash in FF just to run Youtube and like sites, IE dont have the Issue with it being latest, Thank goodness for System Restore in Windows 7

[H]@RD5TUFFFALSE you wish to debate why it crashes rather than acknowledging the simple fact it crashes, thus it is not 100% stable please GTFO KTHXBAI.



I never once said that it "sucks" or that IE9 was "crap" only that I have experienced issues with it, and you and the ban stick dummy refuse to accept that.


I'm done debating, and playing semantics, with people that want to blindly ignore reality, I've stated what has happened, explained why, and generally agreed with ya'll and you will not take yes for an answer. Please learn to listen before telling people you know that their wrong and that there to dumb to know it. :nutkick:

[H]@RD5TUFFI never once said that it "sucks" or that IE9 was "crap" only that I have experienced issues with it, and you and the ban stick dummy refuse to accept that.


I'm done debating, and playing semantics, with people that want to blindly ignore reality, I've stated what has happened, explained why, and generally agreed with ya'll and you will not take yes for an answer. Please learn to listen before telling people you know that their wrong and that there to dumb to know it. :nutkick:

Learn to read the posts I've never said: you said that or what. :shadedshu: it was examples of people that instead of trying to find solutions are simply bashing a program or developer.

Did you do what I've say about Googing and the poll???? No, right?, because the evidence is clear. You only want to make stupid references to Steve Jobs and "M$", showing no more than simply hate, instead of troubleshooting possible faults on your or the website's end, and childish posts that are near trolling, when people here are kindly pointing you what could be happening..

Alo this thread is done for me. Unsuscribing.

Also your replies to TheMailMan are regrettable, he is nice with you and you only throwing up hate and nonsense

[H]@RD5TUFFFALSE you wish to debate why it crashes rather than acknowledging the simple fact it crashes, thus it is not 100% stable please GTFO KTHXBAI

I am with TMM on this, you have to know what causes the crash before putting the blame. If I drive a nice car, purposely run you down, and send my lawyers to collect money from you for causing damages to my car you will be mighty angry too.

[H]@RD5TUFFFALSE you wish to debate why it crashes rather than acknowledging the simple fact it crashes, thus it is not 100% stable please GTFO KTHXBAI.:

So when a game crashes to desktop you blame Windows? Hell when anything that crashes on your computer you blame windows? How about when hardware goes bad is that windows fault too! OMGWTFBBQ M$ IS SENDING DEATH RAYZ TO MA RAMZ! :laugh:

Come on man use a little common sense. :toast:

ok yall lets just get back on topic, anything crashing can be severl factors whether hardware or software, hell our bodies break down, same with vehicles etc.

TheMailMan78So when a game crashes to desktop you blame Windows? Hell when anything that crashes on your computer you blame windows? How about when hardware goes bad is that windows fault too! OMGWTFBBQ M$ IS SENDING DEATH RAYZ TO MA RAMZ! :laugh:

Come on man use a little common sense. :toast:

When a game crashes that is using that garbage Games for Windows Live yeah it's a safe bet it's winblows. THe issue at hand of IE9 crashing happens on every PC I own, as well as the ones at the school, so I doubt 5 sets of hardware is bad so nice try to shift blame but no.

A crash (or system crash) in computing is a condition where a program (either an application or part of the operating system) exits abnormally after encountering an error. ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_crash

So by definition I am correct IE9 crashes, I'm not sure how your failing to understand that.

Derek12Learn to read the posts I've never said: you said that or what. :shadedshu: it was examples of people that instead of trying to find solutions are simply bashing a program or developer.

Did you do what I've say about Googing and the poll???? No, right?, because the evidence is clear. You only want to make stupid references to Steve Jobs and "M$", showing no more than simply hate, instead of troubleshooting possible faults on your or the website's end, and childish posts that are near trolling.

Alo this thread is done for me. Unsuscribing.

WOW LOL

Way to go off the deep end, yes because I stated I have had IE9 crash, that automatically means I hate it and am bashing it. GG :nutkick:

Why is it my responsibility to deal with the issue and troubleshoot it, when it's easier to use a different browser that doesn't crash on that specific content?

FourstaffI am with TMM on this, you have to know what causes the crash before putting the blame. If I drive a nice car, purposely run you down, and send my lawyers to collect money from you for causing damages to my car you will be mighty angry too.

The cause is irrelevant, despite the fact I stated the folowing

[H]@RD5TUFFI believe it to be a script on my colleges website that hangs, and causes a memory leak that makes it freeze and crash. It doesn't crash 100% of the time, sometimes it recovers from being frozen, but most of the time it does not.

I'm somehow expected to go find the root cause of it all and then waste my time getting the IT department to attempt to fix it before I can say that IE 9 crashes . . . absolute bat shit shinola!


People are attempting to make this into my fault some how, and paint me as a troll, or an idiot. When all I did was have the audacity to share that I have experienced problems with IE9 and that it lacks features I require, and as such I prefer a different browser. This seems to be unacceptable to a hard headed and ignorant few, who would rather paint me as in a negative light than accept that IE9 is capable of crashing just like every other browser.:wtf:


Ya'll are entitled to your belief's just as much as I am entitled to state the fact that IE9 is not perfect and does crash.


As for your analogy about a car and lawyers, I'm sorry but that was a horrible analogy and makes no sense at all.


I'm afraid hyper sensitivity is the becoming the norm here on TPU and people are far to eager to act like butt hurt children when someone expresses a view not their own.:ohwell:

eidairaman1ok yall lets just get back on topic, anything crashing can be severl factors whether hardware or software, hell our bodies break down, same with vehicles etc.

I agree, I've said my piece, if certain persons wish to continue to argue they can do so with themselves.

I got an idea, why don't you post up the website that makes IE crash.

God all of you are so annoying.

FrickGod all of you are so annoying.

:laugh: I wuv you Frick. :toast:

TheMailMan78I got an idea, why don't you post up the website that makes IE crash.

cannot post pr0n sites on nice public forum....;)

It's out now. It's a pre-release version. No word about final version yet.

Download for Win7x64

download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/8/4D8344C0-E5C6-4095-A71D-2B6184AEAF62/IE10-Windows6.1-x64-en-us.exe

And Win7x86

download.microsoft.com/download/0/4/9/049A037E-B6B4-4303-90BE-BA6CAE979674/IE10-Windows6.1-x86-en-us.exe

Looks the same as 9 to me.

Still don't like it will continue to use anything else.

It's actually quite speedy. Cya Chrome, for now.

KreijLooks the same as 9 to me.

It sandbox's flash and a few other things. Its a big jump in security.

Anybody know a decent free adblocker for IE10?