Is it just wishful thinking that ivybridge-e will have the same ipc as haswell, despite the naming?

Broadwell, we hardly knew ye.

interesting that they still have many pentium line

My pair of 2.4Ghz quad core Xeons (thats Xeon 2690, 2.4Ghz quad core, no turbo no HT) are still waiting for the promised 8 core 3.2Ghz base 3.6/3.8 Boost LGA 2011 IVY-Bridge E Xeons to come on the Market.
I've also heard rumors of a 2.8Ghz Base 30 Mb LVL 3 Cache 10 core Xeon.

Hopefully we will see this year if something happens in this direction!

wishlist for 4771:
-soldered top
-less heat with high voltage
-more OC potential (as many of 4770 seem like they cant clock too high), meaning to eliminate this "luck of the draw" for a capable chip when buying a cpu.

Oh look, Ivy Bridge Enthusiast chips.

I am soooooooooo very happy for Intel. They release an Ivy Bridge refresh of the enthusiast chips a minimum of one quarter after they introduced the next generation of their mainstream processors.

Let me guess Intel, we will be graced with performance that just barely beats out mainstream (read: significantly cheaper) processors in highly threaded applications. We'll have the honor of getting chips that overheat because you decided to cheap out on production, unless someone over there finally figured which end of the crap stick to swing and which end to hold. On top of this, the PCH will still deliver connectivity only equaling that of mainstream options (read: not all SATA III, and only 6 ports maximum). We the consumer get all of this, and get to pay through the nose for it.

I'm angry that I spent the money on X79. I'm angrier that Intel is telling its high-end consumers that they don't get access to new tech. Sorry, I'd like to be happy to see IB-e, but nearly two years between SB-e and IB-e (not to mention the lackluster X79 PCH) has made me a more jaded person.


Edit:
OK, here's what will get me excited about IB-e. The 4930k will come in at MSRP $450. The PCH will be upgraded to a 45nm process; this upgrade will provide 10 SATA III ports, cooler temperatures, and more USB 3 slots natively. PCI connectivity will be dropped completely, and the CPU will get access to nearly all 40 pci-e lanes for expansion cards.

Knowing Intel, the price and PCH upgrades are out the window. I'm not looking forward to the way Intel is going, and hopefully Intel will right their problems next generation. I'm not holding my breath though.

Intel keeps shitting on PC enthuseists and we embrace it. No more, i really hope soon.

i need a new processor, my main rig cpu is so damaged from volts :banghead:

DinaAngeli need a new processor, my main rig cpu is so damaged from volts :banghead:

Tell me about it, my Q6600 has been holding candles since 2007, and i had jumped from dual core to quad, so i am looking for similar jump but since past 6 years there is no change.

jigar2speedTell me about it, my Q6600 has been holding candles since 2007, and i had jumped from dual core to quad, so i am looking for similar jump but since past 6 years there is no change.

mhm 1.53 vcore over time does dmg, a old rig i had died since i wasnt using sensor on water loop and pump stopped. these days i use LD phase cooler and a spare one that a user on overclock3d made that i used for many months, its not stopped atleast, yet

jigar2speedTell me about it, my Q6600 has been holding candles since 2007, and i had jumped from dual core to quad, so i am looking for similar jump but since past 6 years there is no change.

Yup, I'm still on i7 960. lol :toast:

jigar2speedTell me about it, my Q6600 has been holding candles since 2007, and i had jumped from dual core to quad, so i am looking for similar jump but since past 6 years there is no change.

Same here still rocking an i7 920. Hopefully it holds out to SKylake [which I believe is Intel's first 14nm implementation in 2014?]

boogerladIs it just wishful thinking that ivybridge-e will have the same ipc as haswell, despite the naming?

I'd be just happy with more cores....

radrokI'd be just happy with more cores....

... and more Ghz

just hope its soldered and not used thermal paste :shadedshu

Hilux SSRG... and more Ghz

i believe i read that its gonna have 6 cores still.
but lower volts for 5ghz would been sweet

DinaAngeljust hope its soldered and not used thermal paste :shadedshu

i believe i read that its gonna have 6 cores still.
but lower volts for 5ghz would been sweet

It is soldered. Enthusiast 'E' chips are the very low bin or partially defective Enterprise 'E' chips.

The Z87 chipset came out with 6 SATA-III ports. I can't believe that IB-E will not be upgraded to at least match that. It currently supports only 2 SATA-III ports.

lilhasselhofferOh look, Ivy Bridge Enthusiast chips.

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I agree. X79 could have been great instead it was a half-baked, half finished, unoptimised mess.

Even if they do update the PCH, I don't see how the overall performance will be worth it.... and really they are just catching up to the features on mainstream boards...unless the CPU and IPC improvements are huge, but I don't think its going to be worth it.

I think I'd rather move to haswell but Im gonna wait and see.

buggalugsI agree. X79 could have been great instead it was a half-baked, half finished, unoptimised mess.

Even if they do update the PCH, I don't see how the overall performance will be worth it.... and really they are just catching up to the features on mainstream boards...unless the CPU and IPC improvements are huge, but I don't think its going to be worth it.

I think I'd rather move to haswell but Im gonna wait and see.

I think someone is forgetting that skt2011 has 40 PCI-E lanes. If you don't like something about the PCH (which isn't supposed to give you everything you ever wanted in the first place, much like regular server boards,) you might as well get a PCI-E expansion card for SATA 6GB or whatever you're really complaining about on the PCH.

Also you make it sound like the 3770k and 4770k walk over SB-E and generally speaking, the performance isn't all that much higher. When it comes to raw CPU power, you might want to think again.

If you look at Guru3d's 4770k review and on every graph look for the 3820. You'll see that the 4770k and 3770k run faster than it (in most cases,) but in general, it's not a huge increase. So the only thing I think is half-baked is your analysis of X79 because it does everything that it should and being an owner of a skt2011 machine, I can tell you that your concerns are unfounded. I would not give up skt2011 for skt1150.

I will also wrap up by saying that z87 has the same limitations as X79 in the sense that they both use DMI 2.0. They both have the same amount of bandwidth to the CPU from the PCH.

is a pch 100% necessary for a motherboard? Why can't manufacturers simply use the pci-e lanes for individual controllers?

Jesus christ at this rate nobody is going to need to upgrade their current systems in terms of CPU/mainboard for at least another 4 years >.< Talk about a snorefest. What I DEMAND to see (and soon) is;

At least 8x SATA3 ports native
at least 6x USB3 native
6 core CPUs mainstream
At least a 50% performance improvement over my 3570k
Far more PCI-E lanes for mainstream chipsets
For the love of god, KILL PCI slots on enthusiast boards.