Tuesday, September 30th 2014

Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Operating System

Microsoft Corp. on Tuesday unveiled its next Windows operating system, Windows 10, and gave a first look at an early technical preview for the PC available Oct. 1. The announcement highlighted advancements designed for business, including an updated user experience and enhanced security and management capabilities. The company also introduced the Windows Insider Program, kicking off its largest-ever open collaborative development effort to change the way Windows is built and delivered to best meet the needs of customers. Program participants will receive the technical preview of Windows 10 and a steady stream of builds through the development cycle to use and give feedback on.

"Windows 10 represents the first step of a whole new generation of Windows, unlocking new experiences to give customers new ways to work, play and connect," said Terry Myerson, executive vice president of the Operating Systems group at Microsoft. "This will be our most comprehensive operating system and the best release Microsoft has ever done for our business customers, and we look forward to working together with our broader Windows community to bring Windows 10 to life in the months ahead."
Windows 10: familiarity and consistency across devices
Windows 10 adapts to the devices customers are using - from Xbox to PCs and phones to tablets and tiny gadgets - and what they're doing with a consistent, familiar and compatible experience, enabling even greater productivity. Windows 10 will run across the broadest range of devices ever from the Internet of Things to enterprise datacenters worldwide. Microsoft is also delivering a converged application platform for developers on all devices with a unified app store. Developers will be able to write an application once and deploy it easily across multiple device types, making discovery, purchase and updating easier than ever for customers.

Windows 10: designed for the challenges of modern business
Windows 10 builds nearly everything that businesses need right into the core of the product - including enterprise-grade security, identity and information protection features - in ways that can reduce complexities and provide better experiences than other solutions. One area of advancement is in the work Microsoft has done with user identities to improve resistance to breach, theft or phishing. Windows 10 will also help advance data loss prevention by using containers and data separation at the application and file level, enabling protection that follows the data as it goes from a tablet or PC to a USB drive, email or the cloud.

Management and deployment have been simplified to help lower costs, including in-place upgrades from Windows 7 or Windows 8 that are focused on making device wipe-and-reload scenarios obsolete. Businesses will also have the flexibility to choose how quickly they adopt the latest innovations and influence continued improvements. In addition, organizations will be able to customize an app store specific to their needs and environment. The intent is an app store that will allow for volume app licensing, flexible distribution, and the ability for organizations to reclaim or reuse licenses when necessary.

Technical preview PC productivity
The early technical preview of Windows 10 demonstrates new levels of flexibility, navigation and familiarity through the Windows experience. Features include these:
  • Expanded Start menu. The familiar Start menu is back, providing quick one-click access to the functions and files that people use most, and it includes a new space to personalize with favorite apps, programs, people and websites.
  • Apps that run in a window. Apps from the Windows Store now open in the same format that desktop programs do. They can be resized and moved around, and have title bars at the top allowing users to maximize, minimize and close with a click.
  • Snap enhancements. Working in multiple apps at once is easier and more intuitive with snap improvements. A new quadrant layout allows up to four apps to be snapped on the same screen. Windows will also show other apps and programs running for additional snapping, and it will even make smart suggestions on filling available screen space with other open apps.
  • New Task view button. The new Task view button on the task bar enables one view for all open apps and files, allowing for quick switching and one-touch access to any desktop created.
  • Multiple desktops. Instead of too many apps and files overlapping on a single desktop, it's easy to create and switch between distinct desktops for different purposes and projects - whether for work or personal use.
Open and collaborative development
The introduction of the Windows Insider Program demonstrates Microsoft's continued commitment to working closely with customers to help shape the future of Windows. Windows Insiders will be able to give feedback on early builds of the product throughout the development cycle. The program will include various ways for Windows Insiders to engage in a two-way dialogue with Microsoft, including a Windows Feedback app for sharing suggestions and issues and a Windows Technical Preview Forum for interacting with Microsoft engineers and fellow Insiders. More information on the Windows Insider Program and the technical preview can be found here.

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129 Comments on Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Operating System

#51
stinger608
Dedicated TPU Cruncher & Folder
AhhzzMeh. They did alright by Win7, especially after the fiasco that was Vista. My clients (and myself) will enjoy the return to an actual desktop with start menu, and I actually like the tile set on the right of the start menu. Multiple desktops will be nice, especially if they can be hotkeyed like some third-party software. Would be better if it was able to dedicate cores to a desktop, but my money is on "not". Still, I'll snag the tech preview, dump it on a box or two and see how it runs. Can't really be worse than Win 8 :)
If we look at Microsoft's track record, they are pretty much due for a decent OS;

98: not so good
98SE: Much better.
ME: terrible
XP: pretty good OS
Vista: Well, just crap LOL
Win 7: Much much better
Win 8: Well, we all know the controversy on this
Win 10: Hey, with the above track record it should be a pretty good one.
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#52
Ahhzz
NaitoWindows 8/8.1 is fine. I'm enjoying using it more than Windows 7; it's snappier all round. It saddens me that the enthusiasts around here can't figure out how to install something like Start8 or StartIsBack and actually use the OS.
Windows 8 is fine! Just go add a bunch of third party apps to make it look like Windows 7, and it's fine!!
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#53
stinger608
Dedicated TPU Cruncher & Folder
AhhzzWindows 8 is fine! Just go add a bunch of third party apps to make it look like Windows 7, and it's fine!!
Hell, just the 8.1 update and installing ClassicShell makes it a very usable os. :p
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#54
Arjai
8.1 was a definite improvement. I see Win 7 machines and think, my goodness, these folks are missing out!

Boot to desktop. A much improved search. Metro windows with minimize and exit. The Start Menu is over rated. I have to slog through Win 7 when I remote with my Brother. It sucks folks, face it. It's a larger change than 98-XP-7 was but, IT IS BETTER.

I know, I was a real hater of 8. Because it deserved it! But, then they fixed it. 8.1, it's as though Metro doesn't exist, until you need it. Instead of Metro is all and you were forced to use it just to gain a desktop!

I could go on...faster, smaller drive footprint, over all snappier. I have even come across web blogs claiming games run better on 8.1.

IDK, not a hardcore gamer. I will not speculate nor watch the hype video nor do any Beta testing. I will wager that it will be a better OS, because MS has been trying lately, very recently, to improve their products for us, the user's.

As much as I would love to see a new, ground up, remake that was lightweight and quick but, nothing like a Chromebook OS.

The wheel is still round but, they are not all the same, are they? Maybe someday.....:rolleyes:
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#55
Prima.Vera
NC37So...literally 10 is going to be what 8 should have been had the design team not been huffing paint...makes sense. They still gotta prove it tho and we'll know by launch if it sinks or swims depending on how many get downgrade options.
Basically 10 will be for 8, what 7 was for Vista.
RoelIt's surprising how some talk about the current desktop design failing. I still feel keyboard and mouse is superior to any touch screens and allows me to finish tasks way quicker. For example, try to type an entire page of text, nothing will be faster than a good keyboard that can achieve 400+ strokes per minute. I can only see that being beaten when we can control software with our mind so without input devices, or when we actually have chips in our brain that allow us to think faster. These are things reserved for a next generation so it will be a while before we see all keyboards and mice vanish from offices.
If somebody will bring a revolutionary voice detector software on the table, I would be sold. Even nowadays, with the current POS voice recc system from MS, I can open programs, write emails, play songs, movies, etc. But it still doesn't feel natural and realistic enough. Same with SIRI from Apple or simmilar from Google.
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#57
ne6togadno
AquinusYou mean ExFAT?
i want to see something like those in consumer grade os. they already have started with something similar but only for win8 server. we can only hope it will make it in win10 as default file sys
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#58
micropage7
NaitoWindows 8/8.1 is fine. I'm enjoying using it more than Windows 7; it's snappier all round. It saddens me that the enthusiasts around here can't figure out how to install something like Start8 or StartIsBack and actually use the OS.
yeah that true win 8 offer something better but MS cant package it in good box so people just throw it out the window
personally i think win 8 "push" user to get familiar with tiles interface like win phone and they forgot that pc is more complex than phone which just run app, run home button or run app and press back

btw what i expect fron win 10 is light OS, and easy to run
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#59
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
ne6togadnoi want to see something like those in consumer grade os. they already have started with something similar but only for win8 server. we can only hope it will make it in win10 as default file sys
I don't because everything including OS X and Linux already supports NTFS. It tooks years for NTFS to become supported in most major operating systems. If they switch it again I suspect we'll have to wait at least a year or two for a half decent driver for other OS'. Considering that NTFS is just about as quick as EXT4, I don't think MS needs to change it unless there is something about it that actually is becoming a bottleneck, but unlike FAT32, NTFS is still working just fine and hasn't hit any of its limits yet with normal workloads.

I added a couple you forgot about and made an adjustment.
stinger6083.11-95: Not very good
98: Not much better.
98SE: Much better.
Windows NT 4: On par with 98SE (as an OS, compatibility could be a bear with DOS apps.)
ME: terrible
2000: Good, solid OS.
XP: pretty good OS
Vista: Well, just crap LOL Initially bad, after service packs, practically the same as Windows 7 after.
Win 7: Much much better
Win 8: Well, we all know the controversy on this
Win 10: Hey, with the above track record it should be a pretty good one.
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#60
dj-electric
To me, it's quite amazing how he demos features that existed in Linux enviorments over a dacade ago.
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#61
remixedcat
reFS rundown for those that talked about it:

note: as of now you can't boot off a reFS volume. reFS is primarily for server storage arrays and not the actual OS itself yet.

Also not to be used on DOMAIN CONTROLLERS.

I have server 2012 and it has support for it. I can't try it tho, as I need to keep NTFS for compatibility and portability reasons. However, once I build a storage array I will prolly switch to reFS and try it out... IF I FIND A GOOD RAID CONTROLLER.

Removed features

Some NTFS features were removed and unsupported in the initial versions of ReFS. These included named streams, object IDs, 8.3 filename, NTFS compression, Encrypting File System (EFS), transactional NTFS, hard links, extended attributes, and disk quotas.[10][3] ReFS does not itself offer data deduplication.[10] In addition, Windows cannot be booted from a ReFS volume.[10] Dynamic disks with mirrored or striped volumes are replaced with mirrored or striped storage pools provided by Storage Spaces, however, automated error-correction is only supported on mirrored spaces.

Features initially removed include:[14]

File-based compression
Disk quotas
Object identifiers
Encrypting File System
Named stream
Transactions
Hard links
Extended file attributes

Windows 8.1 (only in the 64 bit version) is the first client operating system to provide some support for ReFS.

ReFS was initially unsuitable for Microsoft SQL Server instance allocation due to the absence of alternate data streams.[15] However, in Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 R2, ReFS reacquired alternate data streams and automatic correction of corruption when integrity streams are used on parity spaces.[16]
Stability and known issues

Adding thin-provisioned ReFS on top of Storage Spaces (according to a 2012 pre-release article) can fail in a non-graceful manner, in which the volume without warning becomes inaccessible or unmanageable.[7] This can happen, for example, if the physical disks underlying a storage space becomes too full. Smallnetbuilder comments that in such cases, recovery could be "prohibitive" as a "breakthrough in theory" is needed to identify storage space layouts and recover them, which is required before any ReFS recovery of file system contents can be started; therefore it recommends using backups as well.[7]

Other issues identified or suggested for ReFS running on Storage Spaces (its intended design[9]) include:

Because ReFS was designed not to fail, if failure does occur there are no tools provided to repair it. Third party tools are dependent on reverse engineering the system and (as of 2014) few of these exist.[9]


oh and the features I like about Server 2012/8:
  • Improved file explorer UI with more options
  • Improved file transfer dialog with speed graph
  • Proper multimonitor taskbar and wallpaper support
  • Built in .iso mounting and burning
  • Better task manager with more info
  • OSD volume controls/display
  • Built in Hyper-V (previously only avalible in server releases) Please note: however it is a bit stripped down
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#62
BorisDG
natr0nI need an ISO!!!
"Isodemo"
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#63
ssdpro
natr0nI need an ISO!!!
I'll second that. MS has started making fresh installs a bit more cumbersome for awhile. I don't want to install Windows 8, then update to Windows 8.1, then update to Windows 8.1 Update One just to get Windows 10 to appear in the App Store. Let me download a nice, professional ISO and enter my previous keys etc. Heck, Office 2013 Pro needs to fully download every time you install the stupid thing.
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#65
Katanai
AquinusWhat happened to Windows 9? :confused:
I know: maybe seven ate nine.




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#66
CrAsHnBuRnXp
KatanaiBecause you work and you are not being paid for it. If you didn't know beta tester is a paid position in any software company.
Are you working for this company? No? Didnt think so.

Have you ever downloaded any non RTM alpha/beta builds of previous MS OS's? Yes? Well guess what, you beta tested and didnt get paid for it then either.

Have you ever gotten into a game beta? Were you paid for it? No? Then take a wild guess what?
stinger608If we look at Microsoft's track record, they are pretty much due for a decent OS;

98: not so good
98SE: Much better.
ME: terrible
XP: pretty good OS
Vista: Well, just crap LOL
Win 7: Much much better
Win 8: Well, we all know the controversy on this
Win 10: Hey, with the above track record it should be a pretty good one.
Technically they skipped 9 which by the track record would have made it good. So since they went straight to 10 which would have been crap, it might be another 2 years of a crap OS no one likes. :laugh:
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#67
Sony Xperia S
Don't hold your breaths, guys.

This thing will be quite late with release schedule for the end of 2015. :eek:

:laugh:
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#68
Scrizz
AquinusI use OS X for work. As a developer I spend most of my time in a terminal and in a browser but I don't run into any productivity issues with Linux, Windows, or OS X. I prefer OS X over Windows for development, but I prefer Linux over both of them, but I can do the same thing in all 3 just as well.
THIS! QFT!!

I agree. It's a matter of personal preference. I just hate it when people start saying how "it just works" and spewing all the other garbage. I've used both Windows and Mac OS in professional settings and there have been times I've wanted to throw PCs running each of those OS out of the window.
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#69
Scrizz
stinger608If we look at Microsoft's track record, they are pretty much due for a decent OS;

98: not so good
98SE: Much better.
ME: terrible
XP: pretty good OS
Vista: Well, just crap LOL
Win 7: Much much better
Win 8: Well, we all know the controversy on this
Win 10: Hey, with the above track record it should be a pretty good one.
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The only real POS on the list IMHO is ME. The best OSes in that time were 98 and 2000.
Win 95 was miles better than 3.11 spent much time on the solitaire and minesweeper. LOL
Vista was fine. The problem was people were trying to run it with 5-6 year old hardware/peripherals.
With a modern machine, it was fine. I've talked to countless people who talk/talked badly about vista and never even used it.....
Win 7 is like vista light.
Win 8, not the best for a desktop OS(managing wireless connections should not take up half the screen.......)
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#70
Sony Xperia S
ScrizzVista was fine. The problem was people were trying to run it with 5-6 year old hardware/peripherals
Do you have a clue that human consumption drives the planet to ecological catastrophe?

Those greedy monkeys at the top should finally realise that not everything is profit and they will not carry the profit with themselves into the graves.
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#71
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
CrAsHnBuRnXpAre you working for this company? No? Didnt think so.

Have you ever downloaded any non RTM alpha/beta builds of previous MS OS's? Yes? Well guess what, you beta tested and didnt get paid for it then either.

Have you ever gotten into a game beta? Were you paid for it? No? Then take a wild guess what?

Technically they skipped 9 which by the track record would have made it good. So since they went straight to 10 which would have been crap, it might be another 2 years of a crap OS no one likes. :laugh:
This is as lame as the google/firefox update numbers
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#72
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
What I found interesting is he showed start menu, search, and snap all as if they were new innovations. All were part of W7! OK, W7 couldn't do 4 snaps, but it's not new.
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#73
Ahhzz
Technical preview available now, 32-bit and 64-bit iso links available here.
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#74
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
AhhzzTechnical preview available now, 32-bit and 64-bit iso links available here.
I think I may actually do this! I just have to decide what computer to sacrifice.
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#75
stinger608
Dedicated TPU Cruncher & Folder
ScrizzI don't think you used very many of those OSes.
The only real POS on the list is ME. The best OSes in that time were 98 and 2000.
Win 95 was miles better than 3.11 spent much time on the solitaire and minesweeper. LOL
Vista was fine. The problem was people were trying to run it with 5-6 year old hardware/peripherals.
With a modern machine, it was fine. I've talked to countless people who talk/talked badly about vista and never even used it.....
Win 7 is like vista light.
Win 8, not the best for a desktop OS(managing wireless connections should not take up half the screen.......)
Um, pardon me, but I not only have used all of them many times, I currently own all of the os's clear back to 2.0.
Saying that "Win 95 was miles better than 3.11" would of course be your opinion just as my original post was my opinion.
Don't appear to be condescending by telling me that I didn't use "very many of the OSes."

Hell, I can be just as condescending and explain that I was writing programs well before Windows was even invented. Sorry, but I was messing around with computers in the latter part of the 80's which I have to suppose you didn't even fool around with systems if you were even old enough to.
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