Tuesday, June 9th 2015
AMD Radeon Graphics Roadmap for 2015 Leaked
It looks like AMD's desktop discrete GPU lineup for 2015 will see a mix of rebrands, re-codename, and one big new chip, all making up the new Radeon R7 300 and R9 300 series. Cards based in this lineup should begin rolling out this month. Leaks from OEMs such as this one, suggest that the first of these should begin rolling out as early as June 16.
The spread is pretty cut and dry. "Hawaii," the chip driving the R9 290 series, will not only get a new codename as "Grenada," but also a seamless rebrand to the R9 390 series, with Grenada Pro making up the R9 390, and Grenada XT making up the R9 390X. One possibility could be AMD taking advantage of low 4 Gbit GDDR5 chip prices to cram 8 GB of standard memory amount, across Grenada's 512-bit wide memory interface. The R9 390X will compete with the GeForce GTX 970, while the R9 390 will offer an option in the vast price and performance gorge between the GTX 960 and GTX 970.
The R9 280 series, has been a messy affair, with two chips, "Tahiti" (re-branded from the HD 7900 series, which dates back to 2012); and the newer "Tonga" silicon, which has similar specs to Tahiti, but a more modern Graphics CoreNext 1.2 stream processor implementation, which offers bare-metal support for Direct3D feature-level 12_0. This chip will get a fresh codename as "Antigua," and will drive a single SKU, the R9 380. The R9 380 could feature 4 GB of standard memory amount (either 4 GB using eight chips is cheaper than 3 GB using twelve chips, or 3 GB is a hard-sell). The R9 380 will compete with the GTX 960.
The "x70" moniker will get demoted from the Radeon R9 series, down to Radeon R7. There will be just one SKU, the Radeon R7 270, and it will be driven by the "Trinidad" silicon, which is a new code-name for "Curacao" (in turn "Pitcairn.") Again, one can expect similar specs to the older generation, but with standard memory amount doubled, to 4 GB. The "Tobago" silicon is a new code-name for "Bonaire," and will drive the R7 360. The "Oland" driven R7 250 will carry on unchanged.
"Fiji" is the only new chip here, and it's apparent that there will be not one, but two SKUs with a fancy SKU name. "Radeon Fury" is doing the rounds. The top-end part will ship with an AIO liquid cooling solution, while the second-best one could be air-cooled. We predict that Fiji XT could [attempt to] compete with NVIDIA's GM200-based SKUs, namely the GTX 980 Ti and the GTX TITAN X; while the Fiji Pro could give the GTX 980 a run for its money.
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The spread is pretty cut and dry. "Hawaii," the chip driving the R9 290 series, will not only get a new codename as "Grenada," but also a seamless rebrand to the R9 390 series, with Grenada Pro making up the R9 390, and Grenada XT making up the R9 390X. One possibility could be AMD taking advantage of low 4 Gbit GDDR5 chip prices to cram 8 GB of standard memory amount, across Grenada's 512-bit wide memory interface. The R9 390X will compete with the GeForce GTX 970, while the R9 390 will offer an option in the vast price and performance gorge between the GTX 960 and GTX 970.
The "x70" moniker will get demoted from the Radeon R9 series, down to Radeon R7. There will be just one SKU, the Radeon R7 270, and it will be driven by the "Trinidad" silicon, which is a new code-name for "Curacao" (in turn "Pitcairn.") Again, one can expect similar specs to the older generation, but with standard memory amount doubled, to 4 GB. The "Tobago" silicon is a new code-name for "Bonaire," and will drive the R7 360. The "Oland" driven R7 250 will carry on unchanged.
"Fiji" is the only new chip here, and it's apparent that there will be not one, but two SKUs with a fancy SKU name. "Radeon Fury" is doing the rounds. The top-end part will ship with an AIO liquid cooling solution, while the second-best one could be air-cooled. We predict that Fiji XT could [attempt to] compete with NVIDIA's GM200-based SKUs, namely the GTX 980 Ti and the GTX TITAN X; while the Fiji Pro could give the GTX 980 a run for its money.
66 Comments on AMD Radeon Graphics Roadmap for 2015 Leaked
As far a VRAM usage there are games that use over 4 GB and there will likely be more in this console life cycle.
"Eight GB of memory would have been more than enough, and, in my opinion, future-proof. Even today, the 6 GB of the two-year-old Titan are too much as 4 GB is enough for all titles to date. Both the Xbox One and PS4 have 8 GB of VRAM of which 5 GB and 4.5 GB are, respectively, available to games, so I seriously doubt developers will exceed that amount any time soon."
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan_X/33.html
I used to have HD4870, it was a great card for DX10 era. I regret never owning 5000 series back when it was fresh, in retrospective it was really stupid of me going green team just before Evergreen series was out. There I was with a brand new GTX 260 sp 216, reading reviews about 5870 and weeping :laugh:
They had similar success with 7970 to a lesser extent because of the pricing. I feel that if they could've produced it (or price it) cheaper, they'd taken back their piece of the market.
I have a good feeling about Fury, they just need to patch up their drivers. I sure hope they have found enough developers, they are currently looking for 290 more workers, 19 of those have something to do with drivers and software development, such as this one https://www.amd.apply2jobs.com/ProfExt/index.cfm?fuseaction=mExternal.showJob&RID=30763&CurrentPage=1
guess things are happening ... wheels are in motion
I currently have a 7950 VaporX Rev2, bought it 2yrs ago and right now it's about to place 1st equal beside the 8000GTX... :)
I don't like the whole rebranding thing....I know both teams do it but it's dishonest marketing imho...
Only game where I'd need more grunt is Natural Selection 2 though. That game is more demanding than GTA5 in late game when teams make tons of structures...
After overclocking my 7950, overall performance was nearly double that of a 6950 it replaced. Usually I wait a couple gens before upgrading, I made an exception....glad I did.
Shame AMD's engineers are let down by a lousy driver team.
R9-290x is being rebranded as the R9-380. R9-390x and Fury are not rebrands because they will have different types of memory setups and more streaming processors then the previous generation. Fury is having 4 GBs HBM and R9-390x is having 8 GB VRam. In a sense, these are the GTX 980ti and GTX Titan-X variant, flagship tiers on the AMD side for this generation. GTX Titan with full GM200 and 12 GBs VRam will be in competition with R9-390x for 4k performance supremacy. GTX 980ti, the dumb-down step-child of the GTX Titan-x, is going up against the Fury XT which will beat both GTX Titan-X and 980 Ti in FPS Performance due to HBM. Both R9-390x and Fury will both run 4096 SP.
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If you want to look at it from another point of view, NVidia 400 to 500 to 600 to 700 to 900 series could be looked at as rebrands of one another. The only differences is the changes between Fermi to kep to Maxwell being the only small difference besides a change in the framebuffer. If people want to call R9-390x a rebrand/refine version of R9-290x, then what I just stated just now is true too. AMD 4000 series got rebranded into the 5000 series, then the 6000 series, then the 7000 series, then the R9-200 series, etc... The main point being that just little 15% to 50% increases were made in between each generation, both AMD and Nvidia, due to rebranding different generations for less than stellar performance increases. Performance increases being the worst on NVidia's end, but that's heavily subjected by every individual's preferences and views on "performance." Difference of 64 Watts doesn't mean crap to a lot, but it's a big deal to NVidia fanboys. Spending $200 dollars more for the GTX 780 Ti over R9-290x for + 10 FPS was really worth it to some...+ 10
Another thing to consider:
GTX 960 = GTX 780 Ti
GTX 760 = GTX 680
In general:
Hypocrisy amongst other TPU members calling AMD out on their rebrands is pretty high since NVidia was the first to do it. Lets look the other way when NVidia does it, but cry like a Bit*** because AMD started copying them. Wa wa! I remember a quote from our very own Humansmoke who told somebody, explaining the hatred between AMD and NVidia fanboys. With Humansmoke siding with the NVidia fanboys, he made a claim that AMD Fanboys are "divorced from reality." Sadly, this little trick of demonizing the other side with their own faults and defects is pretty pathetic on the Green Camp's part, and the only other group of people low enough to resort to this Aquarius-form of tactics and rhetoric is the Republican Party.... Lawls, shots fired! As for the idiots who want NVidia to be a monopoly, you are basically saying you want AMD to die in a raging fire, and your performance increases each proceeding generation after NVidia becomes a monopoly, to only increase by 1% for a flat rate of $200.00 per generation, and no more Titans or 15% performance improvements. GG NVidia Fanboys.
On a side note, I am not an AMD Fanboy. You may mis-construde that because their is an abundants of ignorant people in the world. I'm actually investing in 2 Titan-X for the purposes of using them for 3D animation and content creation, but I am holding out for 3rd party benches on AMD Fury....
Im already annoyed enough by my friends performance with their 7950 grrr no need for salt in the wound!