Thursday, May 5th 2016
AMD "Summit Ridge" Silicon Reserved for 8-core CPUs Initially
Sources tell Bits'n'Chips that AMD could use a common 8-core CPU die based on its upcoming "Zen" architecture over multiple CPU SKUs, at least initially. AMD will have two distinct kinds of processors, those with integrated graphics (APUs) based on the "Bristol Ridge" silicon, and those without integrated graphics (CPUs), based on the "Summit Ridge" silicon. Since products based on both the dies will use a common socket on the desktop (socket AM4), consumers looking for 2-4 CPU cores will be presented with APU options, while those looking for more powerful CPU solutions will be made to choose 8-core CPUs based on the "Summit Ridge" silicon.
Source:
BitsnChips.it
76 Comments on AMD "Summit Ridge" Silicon Reserved for 8-core CPUs Initially
Interesting, I can't wait to see one reviewed.
Intel got that quicksync people use with their dormant intel IGPU's for some streaming with barely a performance hit.
Plus remember, they'll be SMT this time. So 16+ thread monsters.
Really like this move by AMD to just go with 1 socket. Gives good flexibility for people to upgrade to later. AMD tends to gimp APUs as much as they possibly can. Is a real shame we never got to see FX after Piledriver. We can kinda guess a little bit but, it would be helpful now to determine how much 40% is going to look like from the final BD chips. Is AMD basing that off Excavator's APU form or internal FX builds that were never released? It makes a difference as the CMT design was always utter crap in quad core formats that the APUs use. Only in 6+ setups was there any tangible benefits.
Let's just hope AMD can deliver something that performs well enough so it sells, as that's what AMD needs more than anything else right now.
Which DirectX 12 is making increasingly more needed. It's like Intel doesn't want to make more money in a world where Gaming is one of the extremely few growth markets left to the PC industry.
- Glofo/Samsung 14nm is inferior to Intel's. (Intel can put more stuff onto die of the same size).
- This is AMDs first try with this process, while Intel been rolling it for quite a while.
- IPC gap between Intel and AMD is... monstrous and is NOT caused by fab process alone: my i5 750 (45nm piece of shit launched in Q3 2009) has better perf/watt and is on par if not faster than AMDs top chips at most stuff, bar supermultithreaded.
- AMD is again singing "Moar Coars" song.
Concusions:But it does seem logical your gpu is putting in extra work to render video for a stream, while with a gpu on a cpu, that thing does nothing (if you are using a dedicated gpu) so you could just make it work for the stream rendering.
Maybe its nothing more then just a nice pleasing idea on my end, using hardware that otherwisedoes nothing.
And tot think there was a time I wouldn't have paid for an intel CPU no matter what (AthlonXP~Athlon64 days)... Today AMD only makes sense if you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. Here's hoping Zen will change that, even if I'm not holding my breath.
For what its worth my Core i7 5820K 6 core / 12 thread processor cost about ~$319 USD at Microcenter and I don't think that was too bad with respect to pricing,....or at least it wasn't back when Haswell-E was first released.
Edit:
So if Zen forces prices lower, consumers win regardless of whether they buy a AMD or Intel.
this isn't based off of fx
Intel had the same IPC gap between athlon 64 and pentium 4
Jim Keller designed zen, the same guy who designed athlon 64
Conclusions:
No one here can legally say how zen will perform anything said by members is pure stipulations based off of nothing.
I bitch about Frys lol
But my educated guess is also: we don't know at this point.
This chip is a ground up redesign with arguably one of the best chip designers to grace this earth engineering it. Will it be great? Fuck if I know, but I doubt it sucks.