nem..GTX -> Real
1060 ->Fake




i.imgur.com/XtIKcJZ.jpg
i.imgur.com/5Tjs6Yt.jpg

What an amazing fake graphic card then, they even faked the whole heatsink, marvelous.

chinmiRIP RX480 !!! :respect:

you need to be at least 18 years old to post in this forum

or being on the internet in general

TheDeeGeeHere is something to keep you busy.

m.imgur.com/a/zgHr7

Yes, in CrossFire the RX 480 is way faster, but we all know about these half assed Console Ports nowdays. It's always a gamble wether it works or not.

The good thing is that all new playstation and xbox will have 480 and zen in it so at least games will be made for AMD! :D

NDownyou need to be at least 18 years old to post in this forum

or being on the internet in general

Maturity does not come with age believe me, especially in England lol.

medi01In what way did 789€ 1080 "replace" 499€ 980?
Do people that normally buy 500€ card now suddenly pay 800€?

Does it perhaps have to be a card that ends with 80?
If so, wouldn't it be cheaper to replace it with 280/380/480?

Frickin medi01: STOP your pricing bullshit about model replacements!! It's not based on cost. Period, end of story. You keep sticking to that tired old claim in multiple threads and everyone is tired of hearing it. Enough.

@gdallsk and @Crap Daddy thank you!!

nem..GTX -> Real
1060 ->Fake




i.imgur.com/XtIKcJZ.jpg
i.imgur.com/5Tjs6Yt.jpg

.....this was a great time waster until tomorrow (6/29/2016)........then the real fun begins :D

anybody else notice the Millennium Falcon is on the front of this card???

rtwjunkieFrickin medi01: STOP your pricing bullshit about model replacements!! It's not based on cost. Period, end of story. You keep sticking to that tired old claim in mulriple threads and everyone is tired of hearing it. Enough.

@gdallsk and @Crap Daddy thank you!!

Somebody had too much cayenne in their gumbo.

nem..GTX -> Real
1060 ->Fake




i.imgur.com/XtIKcJZ.jpg
i.imgur.com/5Tjs6Yt.jpg

I'm calling different angles in the pictures influence perception.
The bright and dark sections are caused be differing angles of light, both sides are recessed.
I say True.

I'm sorry if it offends anyone, but "price doesn't determine card tier" sounds like someone from this movie is talking.

There are only TWO things that determine cards positioning.
It is PRICE.
And it is PERFORMANCE.
Nothing freaking else.
Definitely not names and even less so INTERNAL freaking codes.
Got it?

The cards might SHIFT to a new tier IN THE FREAKING FUTURE and when THAT freaking happens they will have different freaking PRICE.
Got it now?
Let me repeat it, that happens IN THE FREAKING FUTURE when FREAKING PRICE is changed!!!
Got it now?

Still not?

Jesus Christ, users on tech, freaking, site...
/facepalm

ensabrenoirThe competition is going to respond with something to undercut Amd's power move.

Remind me the last time it happened in this tier. Exactly which part will be "undercut"? Will it be memory? I mean 3Gb sure sounds like undercut 4Gb.

medi01I'm sorry if it offends anyone, but "price doesn't determine card tier" sounds like someone from this movie is talking.

There are only TWO things that determine cards positioning.
It is PRICE.
And it is PERFORMANCE.
Nothing freaking else.
Definitely not names and even less so INTERNAL freaking codes.
Got it?

The cards might SHIFT to a new tier IN THE FREAKING FUTURE and when THAT freaking happens they will have different freaking PRICE.
Got it now?
Let me repeat it, that happens IN THE FREAKING FUTURE when FREAKING PRICE is changed!!!
Got it now?

Still not?

Jesus Christ, users on tech, freaking, site...
/facepalm

You got it the other way around:
The price isnt determining the the card tier,
Its that the card tier is determining the price. Without the naming scheme the GPU market would've been in chaos. You don't seriously want a 1080 to be called a "21000 3dmarks", or "gtaV120fps1080p edition", do you?

medi01I'm sorry if it offends anyone, but "price doesn't determine card tier" sounds like someone from this movie is talking.

There are only TWO things that determine cards positioning.
It is PRICE.
And it is PERFORMANCE.
Nothing freaking else.
Definitely not names and even less so INTERNAL freaking codes.
Got it?

The cards might SHIFT to a new tier IN THE FREAKING FUTURE and when THAT freaking happens they will have different freaking PRICE.
Got it now?
Let me repeat it, that happens IN THE FREAKING FUTURE when FREAKING PRICE is changed!!!
Got it now?

Still not?

Jesus Christ, users on tech, freaking, site...
/facepalm


Remind me the last time it happened in this tier. Exactly which part will be "undercut"? Will it be memory? I mean 3Gb sure sounds like undercut 4Gb.

It doesn't strike you as slightly unusual when you have an opinion and everybody else says you're wrong?
Launch price is a moot point. Give it time to settle down, then you can talk about price. I wonder if you're old enough to have raged about how the DVD was not a replacement for VHS, because it was way more expensive. Same for CD vs audio tape.

gdallskIts that the card tier is determining the price.

That contradicts your own statement that 789€ 1080 is 499€ tier card.

gdallskYou don't seriously want a 1080 to be called...

I couldn't care less what cards are called.
"Bazinga", "UltraArseEliminator", "EliteHairDryer", who gives a flying feck?

The only part that bugs me is when people start to twist reality to make comparison look better.

1080 is a 789€ card that is 20-30% faster than last gen's 650€ card.
This is a plain fact. Something you can't fecking twist by choosing a different target.

This is what matters to a dude that buys 650€ cards.

480 is a 199$ card that LIKELY (based on all leaks, including nvidia biased ones) is 60-70% faster than last gen's 199$ card. (not sure how it will translate into €)

1060 is... we don't know what yet.

bug...everybody else...

You are in no way "everybody else". You are bunch of nvidia biased users.

Aand another rumour being card paper launch July 7 and release a week later. Its Raining GPUs lately

medi01That contradicts your own statement that 789€ 1080 is 499€ tier card.


I couldn't care less what cards are called.
"Bazinga", "UltraArseEliminator", "EliteHairDryer", who gives a flying feck?

The only part that bugs me is when people start to twist reality to make comparison look better.

1080 is a 789€ card that is 20-30% faster than last gen's 650€ card.
This is a plain fact. Something you can't fecking twist by choosing a different target.

This is what matters to a dude that buys 650€ cards.

480 is a 199$ card that LIKELY (based on all leaks, including nvidia biased ones) is 60-70% faster than last gen's 199$ card. (not sure how it will translate into €)

1060 is... we don't know what yet.


You are in no way "everybody else". You are bunch of nvidia biased users.

Let me add more fuel to the fire and say No, what classifies a cards tier is its die size, which on the first iteration of process nodes and yield they usually dont go over 360mm2 or so, then next round when the process is mature they go up to 600mm2.

In my opinion the winner is the company who can get more performance/die size/watt, because the one who achieves that is the one who sets the market prices as they make more profit per chip than their competition who has to build bigger chips in order to compete in the same price bracket. Now when i say winner i mean company/business wise, as for us consumers each person has their own definition of winning depending on their needs. Heck for some people the gtx970 fiasco was a win as they were able to buy second hand cards for dirt cheap!

sergionographywhat classifies a cards tier

It's not about "what classifies a tier".
It's about what property is important when you compare things to each other.

Please be good, Please be good ( the actual 1060 when it comes out)
The RX480 wont be a next card, maybe this can be....please :(

.....saw my first review of the RX480 8gig......why is it mostly trading blows with a 290?


....still gonna hold my opinion till i see a few more. If this is true nvidia not gonna do too much with the 1060.

ensabrenoir.....saw my first review of the RX480 8gig......why is it mostly trading blows with a 290?

....still gonna hold my opinion till i see a few more.

Thanks for link :)

ensabrenoir.....saw my first review of the RX480 8gig......why is it mostly trading blows with a 290?

....still gonna hold my opinion till i see a few more.

I'm going to wait for legit reviews, but I have been thinking the RX480 was going to underwhelm. AMD mentioned it would be 390-level performance for $200, but I don't see it hitting that level, or staying ~$200. I fully expect it to be a $250 290/X.

I expect to see 1060 FE for 666 dollars.

ensabrenoir.....saw my first review of the RX480 8gig......why is it mostly trading blows with a 290?

....still gonna hold my opinion till i see a few more. If this is true nvidia not gonna do too much with the 1060.

This review so far is an anomaly as others have shown the Stock 480 to be trading blows with the heavily OC'd GTX 970(EVGA SSC) and even approaching Reference GTX 980 territory in some instances.

If the 1060 can actually be produced in such quantities soon enough to compete in the mid-range market, it will be still a value proposition between pricing vs. performance.
Will there still be FE Edition pricing in effect with the 1060, thereby raising AIB pricing above the phony SRP floor?
Even if 1060 beats RX 480 which I'm pretty sure is what Nvidia was waiting for and will make sure they achieve, all AMD has to do is give dollar/performance value to compete.
AMD is now firmly dictating Nvidia's next moves i.e.1080Ti/Titan_ to be held in reserve for Vega specs, and has already having a huge impact on the pricing of last gen cards.
I can see nothing but good things for the majority of consumers in having this competition.

ensabrenoir.....saw my first review of the RX480 8gig......why is it mostly trading blows with a 290?

....still gonna hold my opinion till i see a few more. If this is true nvidia not gonna do too much with the 1060.

Come on, give TPU some credit:

NeoGalaxyAlso in Hong Kong a 1070 is selling around 500$, which is not really a good price or anything like that. I think a RX480 at 300 is far better than a 1070 at 500$ don't you think?

That really is a pointless comparison, these cards are at different price and different performance range.
Someone that is looking for a mainstream card don't suddenly shell out for 200 more,
and neither do someone looking for a Performance/High End card suddenly settles for less.