fun fact of this GPU generation launch : GTX 980/70 seems become center of relative performance,
Nvidia try to paint GTX 1060 as GTX 980 performance for cheap,
AMD try to paint RX 480 199 for GTX 970 performance

GTX 980/970 legacy really strong here

MaddoxNvidia has way too many sneaky practices, in my opinion, from the yearly Titan offering being torpedoed by a half-priced, more powerful x80Ti release every holiday season, to the 3.5GB 970 fiasco, to chopping up chips and limiting memory bus width way too far to artificially meet market segments and price points-- the most recent one being the GTX 960.

A 20% to 25% performance bump per generation should be the norm at the mainstream level and the 960 was a ridiculous and uninspiring 8% faster than 760, give or take.

I think Nvidia owes its fans an official apology for the underwhelming 960 in the form of a $200 +/- 1060 base model that exceeds the generational 25% increase, which shouldn't be hard considering just how badly they gimped the GM206 simply to meet their idea of the mainstream segment.

While i agree about gtx960 being underwhelming the fact of the matter was that amd didnt have anything competitive at that tier so nvidia didnt even bother. Tonga was pretty old by then and probably among the worst gcn setups in my opinion. Thats why amd even bothered with polaris as a stop gap architecture before vega is ready as they certainly need a product asap for entry-mid level desktop as well as mobile, because while gcn is an excellent future proof architecture in general and has been competitive with 3 nvidia architectures back to back, it remains that mobile and low power is solely dependent on power consumption so again polaris(gcn shrink to 14nm mostly) was a must, and i have no doubt that polaris will do just fine there as its ready and shipping to oems and had a head start to market over nvidia.

xorbeSounds like it's going to be almost double actually, like maybe 90% faster than stock 960.

192-bit Pascal will slaughter the 128-bit Maxwell. That should have been labeled GT 950 or GT 940 card from the get go.

Actually gtx 960 was exactly half of gtx 980 as far as specs, and therefore bus had to stay at 128bit, since the way maxwell worked the bus was pretty much tied to the number of compute units.

Gtx1060 seems to follow the same pattern apart from the bus width, with gtx1060 being exactly half of gtx1080. Now keep in mind however gtx 1080 uses gddrx while 1060 will stick to gddr5, so again you are pretty much looking at 1080 sliced in half for the most part.

The one i am curious about though is die size because that part is not linear, gtx980 was 398mm2 while gtx 960 was 226mm2

Likely only 192bit because if it was 128bit like they've been dumping on people since Kepler, it wouldn't come close to anything AMD offers.

Even so as it is, it'll likely be weak on high resolutions compared to AMD.

chaosmassivefun fact of this GPU generation launch : GTX 980/70 seems become center of relative performance,
Nvidia try to paint GTX 1060 as GTX 980 performance for cheap,
AMD try to paint RX 480 199 for GTX 970 performance

GTX 980/970 legacy really strong here

This. Dead on right, the whole 9 series was a huge hit great power consumption, thermals, performance and price was really only thing to complain about till recently of course. I have a gtx 980 gaming edition after I saw Wiz's review of it and it's almost the perfect card...it's silent, still great cooling etc all I said earlier and more and for 500 bucks used shortly after release hard to complain about a card I can basically play anything with at any settings with good framerates. THAT is exactly why I am truthfully hoping the 480 and/or 490 from camp red ends up at least being a moderate success because if yet again Nvidia edges them out in everything performance wise leaving AMD only to cut prices to compete we all will lose if Nvidia is default king and can sell whatever they want at whatever price etc. AMD already has been crap on CPU front for years and intel is king and charging crazy money for top cpus for there is no competition nor has been, on the GPU front AMD definitely is much closer to matching Nvidia every generation and again we as consumers will be losers if AMD's gpus become as sad vs. Nvidia as their CPU's are compared to Intel.

The 3gb 1060 card is going to be $400?!?!

MassiverodThe 3gb 1060 card is going to be $400?!?!

.....? Where did you read that? The 1070 is like $439.00 so no...

m.hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/94127-leaked-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-presentation-slides-published/

300 quid is $400 u.s. dollars

www.google.com/search?q=300+quid+equals+many+dollars&oq=300+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0j5.2452j0j4&client=ms-android-metropcs-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

ensabrenoir.....? Where did you read that? The 1070 is like $439.00 so no...

2nd from last paragraph

Massiverod2nd from last paragraph

Ok forgot the whole international market. In murica prices are a little more palatable.